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Great Britain: New super-cameras will mean no hiding place for drivers who smoke, eat or use a phone
The Daily Mail (U.K.) ^ | December 28, 2007 | RAY MASSEY

Posted on 12/28/2007 5:46:26 PM PST by Stoat

New super-cameras will mean no hiding place for drivers who smoke, eat or use a phone

By RAY MASSEY - More by this author » Last updated at 01:05am on 29th December 2007

  Digital speed cameras which capture drivers smoking or eating at the wheel are being introduced nationwide in a new move to hammer motorists.

 

Drivers will also face fines, bans and even jail for infringements such as driving without a seatbelt, using a hand-held mobile phone or overtaking across double white lines.

The hi-tech DVD cameras, which have instant playback, will also be used to provide photographic evidence against those eating sandwiches or rolling-up cigarettes at the wheel.

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Super camera

The DVD camera snapped a driver apparently steering by his feet

These are now considered serious offences under new guidelines drawn up for prosecutors.

The development will massively increase the number of fines and prosecutions against normally law-abiding drivers for relatively minor offences.

As well as being fined £60 and given three points on their licences, motorists now face two years in jail if their actions are considered to have been a factor in dangerous driving.

Virtually every police force in England, Wales and Scotland is now equipped with the new digital cameras. They were given Home Office approval in April but are quietly being rolled out nationwide.

More than 100 have been sold. The manufacturers have said their order book is full until next April.

The DVD cameras can operate as conventional speed traps. But thanks to the instant playback, they also double up to photograph motorists flouting laws other than speeding.

Set up by a police officer on sites such as motorway bridges, they constantly scan the cars and can digitally record drivers behind the wheel committing a vast array of minor traffic offences.

Crucially the new technology, called Concept, allows officers to play back the footage to locate, view and capture the offence instantly.

Photographs taken using the device show how effective it is, capturing pictures such as a man apparently steering his Renault with his bare feet and the driver of an Alfa Romeo with a mobile phone clamped to his ear.

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Super camera

This driver was pictured with a mobile phone clamped to his ear

 

The device is made and sold by Tele-Traffic UK whose chief executive, Jon Bond, is a former police chief superintendent in charge of speed cameras in Warwickshire.

He said: "It is the first camera to record offences other than speeding and give an instant playback.

"If the camera is being used for speed enforcement, but the police officer spots another driving offence being committed - or even thinks he saw something - he can play it back in a second. The offences are easily and quickly detectable."

Mr Bond, whose Warwick-based company employs 20, added: "At present, officers can record an offence such as driving with a mobile phone clamped to their ear or without a seatbelt but would then have to look through perhaps two hours of tape in order to find it again.

"Concept means that those operating the camera can digitally log everything. They are linked to the team in the back office who can instantly find the offence, see the proof and send out a penalty charge notice to the car's registeredowner.

"This will cut down massively on the amount of time police officers have to spend on paperwork and so speed up prosecutions. The days of the police having to chase after people who are infringing the law in these ways are gone. That will make the roads a safer place."

The Concept digital DVD technology costs £17,750. But police forces who already use Tele-Traffic's existing analogue (non-digital) system, can upgrade for a fraction of that price.

Smoking at the wheel was recently included in the Highway Code as something which courts can consider as a factor when police accuse drivers of failing to have proper control of their vehicle.

More than 300,000 drivers a day are still illegally using hand-held phones at the wheel, recent government figures revealed.

The penalties for using a handheld phone while driving, which was outlawed in 2003, were increased in February this year from a £30 fine to £60, plus three penalty points.

Under new sentencing rules, motorists using hand-held mobile phones could be jailed for two years and be disqualified if this was an aggravating factor in dangerous driving.

Those who kill while using a mobile face 14 years behind bars, under a charge of causing death by dangerous driving.

Last October, Mr Bond and his Tele-Traffic team were under fire after admitting to undercover reporters posing as customers that speed cameras were a "scam" and that setting up cameras in new areas was the equivalent of having "a blank chequebook" that would result in "bucketfuls" of cash.

Self-styled Captain Gatso of the campaign group Motorists Against Detection said: "This is yet another example of the Big Brother surveillance society where there's no escape from the cameras."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; bigbruv; britain; cameras; england; greatbritain; nannystate; pufflist; speedcamera; uk; unitedkingdom
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To: lightman

Scary isn’t it :) Stuff like this is what brought me to Ron Paul.


41 posted on 12/28/2007 7:37:34 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Stoat
The days of the police having to chase after people who are infringing the law in these ways are gone. That will make the roads a safer place."

There have been several cases in the US where those unmanned cameras at speed traps have been declared unlawful. It can't make the roads safer because being an inanimate object, it can't chase down the driver and put a stop to his behavior before he kills someone down the road.

42 posted on 12/28/2007 7:47:10 PM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: Stoat

“Liberty? Wazzat?”


43 posted on 12/28/2007 8:05:55 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: org.whodat
Using a phone when driving should be made illegal. Excluding truck drivers and state police.

And yet cops drive punching in info and reading their computers!!

44 posted on 12/28/2007 8:07:01 PM PST by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: mtbopfuyn
The days of the police having to chase after people who are infringing the law in these ways are gone. That will make the roads a safer place."

There have been several cases in the US where those unmanned cameras at speed traps have been declared unlawful. It can't make the roads safer because being an inanimate object, it can't chase down the driver and put a stop to his behavior before he kills someone down the road.
 

I would wish to politely suggest that your use of logic, common sense and a reality-based, informed perspective is entirely at odds with the Socialist mindset of inanimate objects being both the cause and solution of Society's ills, providing they are implemented and controlled by Big Bruv / Government, of course.

Considering recent trends, I see no serious impediment in Europe for human-implanted RFID chips which will provide a system by which all persons can be evaluated as to whether they are in the correct place and doing the correct thing at any given time.

It'll initially be launched as an effort to combat kidnappings and child abductions, of course.

45 posted on 12/28/2007 8:07:54 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: lightman
Talk and legistlation like that is what is pushing me farther from the GOP and closer to the Libertarians.

Me too, Bro!

46 posted on 12/28/2007 8:08:06 PM PST by NaughtiusMaximus (A.D.D. , Me? . . . NO WAY! Hey, look at the chicken!)
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To: Stoat

Britain is lost!

Factor this in, while you still are tempted to believe that it cannot happen here.


47 posted on 12/28/2007 8:08:08 PM PST by Grateful One
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To: org.whodat

“Excluding truck drivers and state police.”

Which one are you?


48 posted on 12/28/2007 8:15:39 PM PST by webstersII
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To: Stoat

Someone could probably make a fortune on car screens that you can see out of but not into. They could have pictures of people driving with seat belts on and hands on the wheel.


49 posted on 12/28/2007 8:17:57 PM PST by CindyDawg (.)
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To: BenLurkin
“Liberty? Wazzat?”

At the moment, Liberty is my ability to sit here in the stoat cave surrounded by numerous stylish, magnificently high-powered and entirely legal firearms and knowing that if I decide to jump in the stoatmobile and drive across the country I most likely won't be tracked the whole way, at least.  Could it be a whole lot better here?  Absolutely.  Could it be a whole lot worse?  Absolutely.  Liberty is something that we have to fight for continuously and never give up the battle for.

 

50 posted on 12/28/2007 8:18:10 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: webstersII

neither, their jobs require it.


51 posted on 12/28/2007 8:31:19 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Stoat
Well said.

"Liberty is something that we have to fight for continuously." - Stoat

52 posted on 12/28/2007 8:33:45 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: org.whodat

“Excluding truck drivers and state police.”


And exclude me too, please, because
I am better, smarter, and safer than you are.


53 posted on 12/28/2007 8:40:39 PM PST by Repeal The 17th
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To: CindyDawg
Someone could probably make a fortune on car screens that you can see out of but not into. They could have pictures of people driving with seat belts on and hands on the wheel.

LMAO! and with animated images of blissful passengers mouthing the words "I love Big Bruv!"

Another wonderful idea, but sadly there's already legal precedent working against this...I'm speaking of "limotint" window tinting, which in some areas is outlawed or regulated and measured as to it's opacity i.e. effectiveness

Radiotronics, Inc. - Acek9.com Window Tint Meters

You aren't allowed to be invisible in your own personal, legally owned, expensive automobile.

54 posted on 12/28/2007 8:44:15 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: commish; All
All drivers in Britain should learn to drive with the middle fingers of each hand extended at all times for the cameras.

Actually, to be culturally correct, it’s the index finger and the middle finger extended, but with the hand in the reverse direction of the US traditional 60’s peace sign....:)

55 posted on 12/28/2007 8:44:19 PM PST by az_gila (AZ - need less democrats)
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To: inkling

Frankly, they had more freedoms in that movie 1984. At least they could smoke and drink.


56 posted on 12/28/2007 8:46:55 PM PST by boop (Democracy is the theory that the people get the government they deserve, good and hard.)
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To: Stoat

That reminds me of the story I heard about vandals
in parking lots that would alter the license plates
of various random vehicles with a magic marker.
Making 1’a into 4’s and 3’s into 8’s and
adding digits and the like.
Just to “F” with the system.


57 posted on 12/28/2007 8:47:27 PM PST by Repeal The 17th
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To: Repeal The 17th
NO, there has been many discussions here about this topic. I just think that for safety it should be limited to those necessary for their profession. I don’t know of anyone else that absolutely needs to us a phone on the highway.
58 posted on 12/28/2007 8:48:09 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: BenLurkin
Well said.

Thank you for your kind words  :-)

Here's a nice adult beverage of your choice, which I believe is extremely illegal in many islamic "countries"

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59 posted on 12/28/2007 8:50:22 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat
"I recall a story not long ago where a young British chap who had a particularly visceral dislike for the speedcams found a police van parked nearby and took a photo of it's plate and then enlarged it and printed it on his computer. He then attached the paper photo of the police plate over the one on his car and drove full-throttle past a neighborhood speedcam dozens of times."

Oh my, that is hilarious! I would have paid to see the expression on the face of the official that got all the tickets in the mail.

60 posted on 12/28/2007 8:50:44 PM PST by boop (Democracy is the theory that the people get the government they deserve, good and hard.)
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