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To: Dr. Frank fan
Frank, I KNOW you feel that New York's first responders are just being overly sentimental when they object to Rudy's filling pot holes with the remains of their dead brothers and sisters. I suggest you go tell them that and tell them how important it is that they ignore all that and vote for your hero Rudy.

But, don't waste your time telling me. Everything about your fella disgusts me.

Goodnight.

129 posted on 12/28/2007 8:04:52 PM PST by tear gas (Because of the 22nd Amendment, we are losing President. Bush. Can we afford to lose him now?)
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To: tear gas
Frank, I KNOW you feel that New York's first responders are just being overly sentimental when they object to Rudy's filling pot holes with the remains of their dead brothers and sisters.

I don't accept that a large pile of dirt that has already been sifted down to the sub-1/4 inch level is the remains of their dead brothers and sisters in any meaningful sense.

Realistically, even if the "charges" in the article are true, we are most likely talking about a mass of dust and powder (mostly from concrete) of which perhaps 0.0000000001%, or some similarly-unfathomably tiny volume, might trace back to some human body.

I don't think they are being sentimental, I think they are being misguided and letting their emotions get the best of them. I think many of them probably need psychological help (and that's not a put-down, because I really have pity for these people). Also, let's note that the article doesn't mention "first responders" in the first place, this is a lawsuit brought by families of 9/11 victims.

Go get a ruler and rule out six quarter-inch squares on a piece of paper. Then cut them out (if you can). Then (this will be really hard) tape them together into a 1/4 inch-sided cube. That is the size of the "human remain" we are talking about.

I have more respect for human life than to reduce it to specks of dust on this level- and to delude myself into thinking that unless we recover each speck of dust we "haven't recovered the remains".

When I saw the headline, I was thinking it referred to bones and limbs. We are talking about sifted dirt for crying out loud. Where the heck do you draw the line? If 1/4-inch is not enough, what is? Please tell me.

I suggest you go tell them that and tell them how important it is that they ignore all that and vote for your hero Rudy.

I am not suggesting they or anyone vote for Rudy. I don't care who they vote for. I didn't even say I will be voting for Rudy (nor did I say he was "my hero"). I am simply pointing out that - like the "criticism" in the article above - your linked/implied "criticism" of Rudy Giuliani, that rubble from WTC that had already been sifted to the 1/4-inch level and "could" contain "human remains" is being used as... well, dirt... is irrational and misguided. I honestly don't understand what the heck you'd expect NYC to do with a large volume of already-finely-sifted WTC rubble.

Also let us note just for the record that the article doesn't seem to indicate what role if any Giuliani had in the decision of what to do with this dirt. From what I see I don't have a problem with it - but the silly thing is that it's not even clear that Giuliani had anything to do with it in the first place. As a "criticism of Rudy Giuliani", this is really a stretch.

Everything about your fella disgusts me.

That is clear, judging from the ludicrous extent to which you're willing to twist logic and reason so as to find these silly "criticisms" of him that don't hold water.

Honestly, there have got to be worse things about Rudy Giuliani than not sifting WTC rubble down to a smaller size than 1/4-inch.

133 posted on 12/28/2007 8:28:05 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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