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To: OKIEDOC

So, I really don’t understand your reasoning. Might just be a fundamental theological difference.

Yes, murder is sin. Although I’d be cautious of calling all suicide a sin, I could see that being true. However, I really don’t see how killing yourself is worse than killing another man. Yes, it is a sin, but it seems to me (a young Calvinist) very strange that our salvation depends on such an arbitrary thing as whether you commit a sin the day before you die or the moment you die. My belief is “once saved, always saved.”

So, yeah, probably not too much we can really discuss, if we disagree on that basic premise of how sin and salvation works.


45 posted on 12/28/2007 6:09:47 PM PST by onja ("The government of England is a limited mockery.") (France was a complete mockery.)
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To: onja
I was brought up with the understanding that someone who takes their own life has taken the decision away from God as pointed out in my post at 42.

It is my belief that I do not have the right to end what God has put on this earth.

Just because I personally think that my life stinks does not necessarily mean that God still dosen’t have a use for me somewhere down the line.

Suppose for a moment that someone that God really loves has gotten off the beaten path and is screwing up and needs to be redirected.

God may say I am going to keep Okiedoc around and use him to influence so and so’s life.

But instead I go out and commit suicide thereby taking away the use of me by God.

It’s a deep subject and thats how I feel about taking away a decision on whether I live or die from my maker.

I have been in several life and death situations and wondered later why I survived and for what reason.

Was it just the roll of the dice that kept me alive each time or was it the prayers that brought me through each horrendous situation.

Well if it was a roll of the dice, that brings up a bigger question, who made the universe and who caused the big bang?

Personally, I am going to cover all bases, like the scared Shiiteless young atheist in the fox hole.

Happy New Year to you and yours.

This is just the opinion of a red state wannabe.

49 posted on 12/28/2007 9:00:07 PM PST by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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