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According to data collected two or three years ago by the Dutch government, Harris said 37 percent of all euthanasia operations in the nation were performed on competent, non-consenting adults.

If they're non-consenting, how is that not "murder?" he was asked.

"Because their law says it's not," answered Harris.

"Tolerance has become so great that this is acceptable in the Netherlands," he added.

And this is what the culture of death wants the attitude to be everywhere.

1 posted on 12/28/2007 12:12:41 PM PST by wagglebee
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2 posted on 12/28/2007 12:13:10 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 12/28/2007 12:13:47 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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4 posted on 12/28/2007 12:14:10 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Mike Beard's degree of existential angst must be unbearable if Oregon is, at 10 years later, the only state to allow doctors to intentionally kill their patients.

So why is he still walking around if this has been such a great success?

5 posted on 12/28/2007 12:17:26 PM PST by muawiyah
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“The main victims, she said, would be women and minorities.”

Nah, she didn’t....


6 posted on 12/28/2007 12:21:05 PM PST by dakine
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Correct me if I am wrong but does not suicide, assisted or not constitute a one way ticket to hell according to my bible?

Lately however the secularists have been teaching that assisted suicided is a glamorous way to kick the bucket.

7 posted on 12/28/2007 12:23:04 PM PST by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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I’m sorry, I really don’t mean to make light here, but…

the couple said they planned to make an appointment with the clinic if Ozzy ever came down with Alzheimer's disease.

How would they be able to tell?
8 posted on 12/28/2007 12:24:28 PM PST by Caramelgal (Rely on the spirit and meaning of the teachings, not on the words or superficial interpretations)
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I have no problem at all with the way Oregon does it. Opponents claimed hundreds would start killing themselves and doctors would start pushing it. The most people who have taken the drug in one year? 46. The most who have requested it? Fewer than 70.


9 posted on 12/28/2007 12:24:47 PM PST by gracesdad
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Of course, when I’m wrestling with issues that involve serious moral and philosophical issues, my first thought is “I wonder where Ozzy Ozbourne stands on this?”


17 posted on 12/28/2007 12:33:48 PM PST by Scotswife
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Until I am in the position that I have terminal cancer and have constant pain 24/7, I cannot judge this story. I guess others have an easier time with pain and suffering.


21 posted on 12/28/2007 12:40:08 PM PST by napscoordinator
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Ozzie’s mind hasn’t been what it was before the Alamo incident.


32 posted on 12/28/2007 2:18:41 PM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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Interesting article. I'm glad I have a living will, to protect me from the well-intentioned but unwanted inrusions of others into my healthcare decisions. The Terry Schiavo (sp?) fiasco motivated me to go see my attorney and get that taken care of.

In some ways, this article reminds me of the arguement for gun control as a means of preventing crime. By shutting off one means of suicide, you just move the problem elsewhere. Like the Archie Bunker comment "would you feel better if they were pushed out of windows??"

I recall reading on the CDC web site that more than half of all gun-related deaths are suicides and the majority of those suicides are people aged 50 and over. Accordingly, I'd be willing to bet that many of the suicides are related to intractable health problems. By closing people out of a physician-assisted venue, where they could receive counseling and help, instead they just walk out into their garage and eat their pistol, which gets the job done.

Maybe physician-assisted suicide is a solution looking for a problem.....

38 posted on 12/28/2007 2:58:02 PM PST by Panzerfaust
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Berlin, 1 September 1939

Reichsleiter Bouhler and Dr. med. Brandt are instructed to broaden the powers of physicians designated by name, who will decide whether those who have - as far as can be humanly determined - incurable illnesses can, after the most careful evaluation, be granted a mercy death.

/signed/ Adolf Hitler

51 posted on 12/28/2007 9:15:48 PM PST by MarMema
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And this is what the culture of death wants the attitude to be everywhere.

Yep. The slippery slope is a real thing.

59 posted on 12/28/2007 10:13:31 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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It’s murder if the patient/victim is non-consenting. If adding insult to injury, their organs are harvested, it is a double crime.


64 posted on 12/29/2007 8:33:59 AM PST by floriduh voter (TERRI'S DAY MARCH 31, 2008 Remember Terri's hopes & fears, not the cowards.)
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What exactly does "euthanasia operation" mean? Are they calling euthanasia a medical procedure now? If so, they are equating it with gallbladder surgery or an appendectomy. If it is listed as a medical procedure, it doesn't seem so much like murder to the family or guardian?

It's murder, not an operation.

65 posted on 12/29/2007 8:36:33 AM PST by floriduh voter (TERRI'S DAY MARCH 31, 2008 Remember Terri's hopes & fears, not the cowards.)
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It will be interesting to see if the old folks in America come to fear going to the hospital as much as they do in the Scandinavian countries...

The largest generation is about to start drawing SS AND facing the consequences of teaching our younger members that killing the “inconvenient” is a “right”. Let’s see how THIS plays out...


99 posted on 12/30/2007 9:48:28 AM PST by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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