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To: Neu Pragmatist
How dare you equate that flip-flopping lying phony with Reagan ...

Yeah, how insulting to equate someone with a politician who proposed Amnesty for millions of illegals, and voted tax increases of historic proportions on Social Security, and signed into law a government funded abortion program...

Ooops. That WAS Ronald Reagan who did all those things.

(As the church lady used to say on SNL ... ) Never mind.

289 posted on 12/27/2007 5:08:57 AM PST by Edit35
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To: Rock&RollRepublican
How dare you equate that flip-flopping lying phony with Reagan ... Yeah, how insulting to equate someone with a politician who proposed Amnesty for millions of illegals, and voted tax increases of historic proportions on Social Security, and signed into law a government funded abortion program... Ooops. That WAS Ronald Reagan who did all those things.

Reagan has gotten a bum rap for decades for allegedly flip-flopping on abortion. As California governor, Reagan signed a bill which permitted abortions for "health" reasons. He and the legislature were both assured that it would only permit abortions in a few very unique circumstances where the mother was suffering severe physical trauma from the pregnancy. After the bill became law, judges "interpreted" the word "health" to mean virtually anything, such as mental stress, and the result was abortion-on-demand. But that was not Reagan's intention. He never described himself as "pro-choice" and at no point in his career ever supported an abortion legalization proposal except for that one bill, which was misinterpreted afterward by the courts and would have only permitted a handful of hard circumstance abortions per year if applied properly.

On amnesty, Reagan agreed to it after being told there were three million illegals in the country and that a one-time amnesty would be justifiable if afterward we cracked down and didn't let any more come in. The problem there was that once Bush I took office, followed by Clinton and Bush II, there was no effort to protect the borders and we now have 12 to 20 million illegals here.

Reagan made some mistakes, but he learned from them. As president, he fought efforts by Congress to add a "health" provision to the Hyde Amendment, because he had learned that that word would be perverted by the courts. Had he remained in office, he would never have supported another blanket amnesty.

303 posted on 12/27/2007 6:32:07 AM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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