[penowa]

"It isn't up for debate or compromise. The right to keep and bear arms is not a right because the government grants it - instead, the government is only legitimate because it recognizes the right. Push enough gun control and the effort will spawn a civil war."

It should NOT be up for debate or compromise, but unfortunately, it is. The SC has cut into the 1st Amendment in the area of political speech while extending pornographic speech, etc., and it has taken a big chunk of our property rights, without much fuss from the citizens on either. I fear that the 2nd Amendment is going to receive worse treatment when the case from D.C. is ruled on.

[Vigilanteman]

Correct. My right to keep and bear arms is no more subject to majority vote and debate than is my right to worship (or not worship) as I see fit.

The spark which started the American Revolution is when British troops were sent to seize the Colonial arsenals.