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Exactly how Reaganesque is Romney? [Mitt Romney is NOT a Republican]
Deseret News ^ | 12/25/07 | Me

Posted on 12/25/2007 5:33:32 PM PST by Mobile Vulgus

It never ceases to amaze me how a person who has decided to support a candidate all too often arrives at a point where FACTS are meaningless to them. Such is true with those who support this Romney character. There has been one example after another that proves that Mitt Romney isn't even a Republican much less a conservative and that he has repeatedly lied about his positions. Yet, well meaning Republicans still support this flip-flopping liar. Here is yet another article that shows that Mitt Romney is the single worse candidate the GOP field has today.

David Lightman of the McClatchy Newspaper chain asks this question: Exactly how Reaganesque is Romney? And the answer is a decided NOT AT ALL.

A few excerpts of this article:

"I take inspiration from the strength Ronald Reagan talked about," Romney said. "It was his view that the right way to overcome challenges was for the country to strengthen itself."

Yet Romney wasn't always such a Reagan fan.

In 1994, when he ran for the U.S. Senate in Massachusetts, he said, "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush."

And...
Romney spent years in the state registered as "unenrolled," or unaffiliated with a political party, and in 1992 he voted for former Sen. Paul Tsongas, a liberal Democrat, in the Massachusetts Democratic presidential primary.
And...
Romney replied: "Look, I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush. My positions don't talk about the things you suggest they talk about. This isn't a political issue."
Romney has lied about being a hunter, he has lied about his not supporting the baby killers at Planned Parenthood, he even lied about his father marching with Martin Luther King, Jr. He led as Governor of Massachusetts as a center left executive yet now claims that he is a conservative.

Yet, all these flip-flops, all these lies and his supporters stick their fingers in their ears and scream "LA LA LA" at the top of their voices. So, here is the thing. Romney is not Reagan, he is far more like Clinton. Because during the first Clinton run lie after lie was revealed and his supporters simply refused to take stock of their man. They voted for him despite the lies, the rapes, all his past troubles were ignored.

Mitt Romney is Bill Clinton without the sex crimes.


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KEYWORDS: 2008; blowmemobilevulgus; bogusheadline; lookatmelookatme; mittromney; mythbuster; rinomittwitt; romney; vanitycrap
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To: Dan Middleton

He lied about having the endorsement of the NRA. That was this month.


61 posted on 12/25/2007 6:32:58 PM PST by Petronski (Willard Myth Romney: 47% negatives)
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To: bw17

Yes he did!


62 posted on 12/25/2007 6:33:22 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Mobile Vulgus; Bigh4u2
Reagan didn’t engage in the kind of vitriolic personal attacks on his opponents I am seeing here. He debated policies where they differed and offered his own vision for America. I can’t imagine Reagan ever saying of an opponent “He agrees with me now, but he didn’t twelve years ago, so he’s a liar. LIAR! LIAR! LIAR!”

Now I would prefer to see Fred Thompson the nominee. But IMNHO, the odds are NOBODY is going to win the nomination in the primaries. The most likely scenario is that it will end up with Rudy, Mitt, Huck, Fred and McCain each having between 10-30% of the delegates going into the convention. If these vitriolic attacks keep up nominating a candidate and uniting the party behind him will be impossible. I think it would behoove the candidates and their supporters to promote their own beliefs and agenda positively, and quit the pointless smearing of other candidates.

63 posted on 12/25/2007 6:33:46 PM PST by Hugin (Mecca delenda est!)
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To: Hugin; Mobile Vulgus
Speaking of Reagan, didn’t he say something about not attacking fellow Republicans?

When someone is a "Republican in Name Only," they don't deserve that kind of respect, as they are no kind of "fellow" except to the other registered Republicans who are at heart and policy anything but.

64 posted on 12/25/2007 6:34:15 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Dan Middleton
It would be refreshing to see an attack on Romney that references something newer than 1994, but one hardly ever does.
And WHY is that do you think? It's because he has NO RECORD of political interest before that!!! He went from spending MOST of his life uninterested in politics, then was a liberal for most of his political life, and the last year he has SUDDENLY "become: a conservative. His record is HORRIBLE!
65 posted on 12/25/2007 6:35:08 PM PST by Mobile Vulgus
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Well said!


66 posted on 12/25/2007 6:35:31 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Mobile Vulgus

I think Romeny is a turd of a candidate, but this post could only come from a Huckabee supporter.


67 posted on 12/25/2007 6:36:20 PM PST by Mariner
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To: Mariner

Sorry. Wrong again. I do not support Huck. In fact, I think Huck is WORSE than Romney!


68 posted on 12/25/2007 6:37:29 PM PST by Mobile Vulgus
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To: Mobile Vulgus

If he is the nominee I’ll vote for Romney.


69 posted on 12/25/2007 6:39:28 PM PST by torchthemummy (“America Will Not Reject Abortion Until America Sees Abortion” -Father Frank Pavone)
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To: Mobile Vulgus; Mariner
this post could only come from a Huckabee supporter.

This is soooooo typical. I agree with this post, and I'm neither a Huckabee NOR a Thompson supporter.

What is it with you people who support Romney? The facts getting in your way or something?

*shaking head in disbelief*

70 posted on 12/25/2007 6:41:36 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: torchthemummy

I am having a tough time coming to that conclusion. I am not sure I can vote for Romney no matter what!


71 posted on 12/25/2007 6:41:56 PM PST by Mobile Vulgus
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To: Hugin

“The so-called 11th Commandment has served the Republican Party well over the years. Ronald Reagan is often given credit for coming up with the rule, but in fact, it was someone else’s idea — someone named Gaylord Parkinson, who years ago was chairman of the Republican Party in California. In September 1965, as California Republicans (including Reagan) prepared to compete for the GOP nomination for governor, Parkinson decreed that the candidates should refrain from attacking each other. He called it the 11th Commandment: “Thou shalt not speak ill of another Republican.” The idea was to foster party unity and avoid the acrimony of the year before, when moderate and conservative Republicans were bitterly divided over their presidential nominee, Barry Goldwater.”

http://dailynightly.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/10/17/416583.aspx


72 posted on 12/25/2007 6:42:04 PM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: nicmarlo

Hmmm....it seems from the polls that the vast majorities of Replican voters seem to be supporing one or another “RINO” rather than Thompson, Duncan Hunter, etc. So if the majority of Republicans are RINOs, what exactly is a “real Republican?”


73 posted on 12/25/2007 6:42:35 PM PST by Hugin (Mecca delenda est!)
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To: Hugin

The vast majority of people are being spoon fed by the liberal mainstream media....and you wonder why the vast majority of the population, who do not read up or concern themselves with actual policies and shifts are becoming RINOS?

Puhleaze.


74 posted on 12/25/2007 6:44:19 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Mobile Vulgus
Mitt Romney is the single worse candidate the GOP field has today.

I'm no Romneybot, but that's a pretty bold and inaccurate statements considering:

  1. Three open borders and amnesty cheerleaders (Rudi, McCain and the Huckster).
  2. One who raised taxes and moved a fairly conservative state further left (the Huckster).
  3. One who is a certified gun grabber and abortionist (Rudi) versus Romney who has only paid lip service.
  4. One who has zero respect for the first amendment as evidenced by his co-sponsorship of McCain-Feingold.
  5. One who is a mere adolescent in foreign affairs except for sponsoring the Mexicanization of America (the Huckster) and is equally clueless on how to fight the war on terror. The only one worse is the moonbat Ron Paul.

Romeny is better than any of these options, but not as good as Duncan Hunter or Fred Thompson. I'm also willing to cut him a little slack for his distinguished record in the private sector prior to his relatively recent foray into elective office.
75 posted on 12/25/2007 6:44:37 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Hugin

A little more on Reagan and Ford...

“Campaigning in Florida that March, Ronald Reagan broke the 11th Commandment and attacked Gerald Ford. He accused Ford, who had then been president just 19 months, of presiding over “the collapse of American will and the retreat of American power,” and said Ford “must be held accountable to history for allowing this to happen.” He said Ford lacked “vision,” that he found it “difficult” to trust his leadership. He accused the president of favoring “pre-emptive concessions” in talks with the Soviet Union, and said, “I fear for my country when I see White House indifference to the decline in our military position.””

Not exactly calling him a ‘liar’, but an attack none the less.


76 posted on 12/25/2007 6:44:51 PM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: jveritas

I’m still putting my effort and money into Duncan Hunter and Fred Thompson. Both on the same ticket would simplify things for me. They are the only conservatives running.


77 posted on 12/25/2007 6:49:06 PM PST by Eagles6
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To: Eagles6; jveritas

There is a real fear this year by people who feel they were burned in 2006 and are deathly afraid of another Clinton in the Whitehouse.

It’s almost to the point of hysteria where some people are willing to sacrifice some of their principals just to make sure that we don’t end up with another Democrat President.

It’s sad that Conservatism seems to be dying.

A shame..A real shame.


78 posted on 12/25/2007 6:54:35 PM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Reniada
That article wasn’t written by a Utah newspaper. Maybe you should actually read it.


I did check it.
The paper that published it, linked to the story and thread was from Utah.
Editorial offices 30 E 100 South P.O. Box 1257 Salt Lake City, UT 84110

So that fact remains that Myth Romney was completely knocked down (ie. did not receive the usual PUFF piece)
by BOTH his home state (Mass, Utah, NH) newspapers.

What is your point?

79 posted on 12/25/2007 6:54:49 PM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Bigh4u2

As I said, Reagan attacked the current policies of his oppenents. He didn’t accuse them of lying when they agreed with him, based on positions they held over a decade before. As I recall George H.W. Bush changed his position on abortion only after Reagan picked him for VP, but he held it staunchly ever since.

I’m not crazy about any of these guys, but one of them will almost certainly be the nominee. Engaging in personal attacks will only help Hillary, Obama or Edwards in the long run. I would rather have a half-hearted ally in the presidency than a determined enemy.


80 posted on 12/25/2007 6:55:16 PM PST by Hugin (Mecca delenda est!)
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