Posted on 12/25/2007 2:34:26 PM PST by Brices Crossroads
Romney:
When Romney took office in 2003, under the law in Massachusetts, enacted by the Massachusetts Supreme Court in Moe v. Secretary of Admin.& Finance, 382 Mass. 629, 417 N.E.2d 387 (Mass. 1981), the taxpayers of Massachusetts were forced to subsidize ONLY abortions performed on Medicaid eligible women. In 2003, there were 4,859 publicly funded abortions in Massachusetts, according to the Massachusetts Citizens for Life. link
In 2003, there were 25,741 total abortions performed in Massachusetts. link
Post-RomneyCare, the state forces every Massachusetts taxpayer to fund every abortion performed on any Massachusetts resident for a very modest $50 copay. Thus, under Romney Care, the number of abortions that will be funded on the backs of the taxpaying citizens of Massachusetts will be at least 500% more than the number when he took office (approx. 25,000 versus 5,000).
Romney's answer to this is as predictable as it is disingenuous: The Courts made me do it. The Court in Moe did no such thing. The court did not require the legislature to subsidize health care. In finding that the state had to cover abortions for Medicaid eligible women in the same way it covered child bearing, the Court was explicit that: "... the legislature need not subsidize any of the costs associated with child bearing or with health care generally. Once it chooses to enter the Constitutionally protected area of choice, it must do so with genuine indifference." This is Massachusetts double speak which is translated: "If you do not want to have universal funding of abortion on demand, then do not pass a universal and mandatory health care program." Romney could have avoided this five fold increase in publicly funded abortions which was put across on his watch and with his enthusiastic support, by vetoing the whole plan. Instead, he chose to sacrifice the lives of unborn children (and to require the taxpayers of Massachusetts to pay for it) on the altar of compulsory, yes socialized, health care. All the bromides about an unpassable Constitutional Human Life Amendment cannot conceal the fact that, when he could have done something to prevent an increase in abortion, Romney not only did nothing. He actually cooperated with it. At the signing ceremony attended by Ted Kennedy, in April 2006 (after his supposed conversion to a prolife position), the mood was ebullient, according to the news reports:
"Mostly, however, the tone was congratulatory. 'This isn't 100 percent of what anyone in this room wanted,' Mr. Romney said. 'But the differences between us are small.' Mr. Kennedy said, 'You may well have fired the shot heard round the world on health care in America. I hope so.'" link
I guess there were not any unborn children in the room, because I daresay their differences with all the celebrants there would have been rather more than "small". Here's hoping that this "shot" Kennedy predicted is heard at least as far as Iowa, where Romney has more or less successfully reinvented himself as a prolife zealot.
Huckabee:
Apparently, according to the documents below, Mike Huckabee took $35,000 in honoraria from a major embryonic stem cell research firm, Novo Nordisk, in late 2006 and early 2007. Earlier this year, Mitt Romney got substantial flack for owning stock in the same firm, and he divested himself of it. See the article below, with links to the documents and websites:
"The Cooler has obtained documents that show Mike Huckabee received $378,000 in consulting fees during 2006, while he was still governor of Arkansas. Most noteworthy, $35,000 came from Novo Nordisk, one of the world's largest embryonic stem cell researchers. It seems that when money is at stake Huckabee may be able to look past his supposedly fervent opposition to this procedure."
There is no doubt that Romney's divergence from the prolife position in RomneyCare is far more serious from a policy standpoint and has graver consequences for the unborn. Huckabee, however, is guilty of real hubris in taking this cash from a company that traffics in human embryos for research, while railing against embryonic stem cell research and even showing pictures of children who were once frozen embryos to try to tug at the heartstrings of his supporters. link
That doesn’t help their position.
I notice you don’t address the fact that people who pay a monthly premium for health insurance in other states are also paying for abortion...at least according to your definition.
Perhaps even you are subsidizing other people’s abortions. Have you checked what your plan covers?
I forget, are prostitutes public businesses in Massatwosh!ts?
That’s not narcissistic self-importance.
I suggest you look up the terms before using them.
I suggest you look up the terms, and then report back to me.
Done. I’m right.
“I notice you don’t address the fact that people who pay a monthly premium for health insurance in other states are also paying for abortion.”
Wrong. People in every other state can either purchase a plan that does not cover abortion or not buy a plan at all. In Massachusetts, under RomneyCare, every taxpayer must belong to a plan and every plan must cover abortion on demand.
MANDATED by the government?
Nope.
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LOL. Instead of a definition, you posted an example of narcissistic self-importance. Very well done. /thumbsup
Did you look at your own plan?
The real narcissism is your command that I report back to you.
LOL. As if.
P.S. You still don't know what the term means.
Lying about Reagan to cover the ass of a man who, as an active republican, dismissed his policies will win you no points on this Conservative site. You should know better, you are not a newbie.
If, and it's a big one even without Fred in the mix, if he wins, I will deal. I will watch him like a hawk, expect the worst, invest my money accordingly and if he surprises me, great, if not, as I have said before, it took a Carter to get Reagan, so we may well be on our way.
As far as the 11th Commandment, it applied to Republicans back when the Republican party was fully Conservative. It now only applies to fellow Conservatives.
Another flip-flop, another lie. I’m going to have a hard time voting for Romney in the General Election if he gets the GOP nod.
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As I pointed out earlier, pursuing a scorched-Earth policy against Romney only helps the Democrats. It will not help get Fred elected.
Keeping the nomination from Slick Willard’s hands helps all conservatives.
Car insurance is apples and oranges, driving is a privilege, you don’t have to do it if you don’t want to buy insurance. You are only forced to do so if you decided to operate a car.
With the health insurance people are given NO choice, even a bad one.
“As I pointed out earlier, pursuing a scorched-Earth policy against Romney only helps the Democrats. It will not help get Fred elected.”
Keep the polls that show Romney doing well now for your scrap book. They are just name recognition polls, but they are as close as he is going to get to the nomination and to the White House. They will however be suitable for framing.
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