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To: TigersEye
Movies aren't that important.

Then there is not much to discuss, because the thread is about the movie, and yet you directed 3 posts to me regarding the movie before I responded. Apparently, this movie was important enough to get the editorial comment in IBD, which usually doesn't comment on movies, except on a "business" side of Hollywood it did notice the big box-office failure of recent political flops. Which is why I posted it.

I've never even seen a promo of West Wing. I don't watch any MSM.

I never saw it "live", on "regular" TV, for the same reason. I did watch reruns on A&E cable channel, few years after live run, including "marathons", which may have helped to see and be amazed at shallow, condescending treatment of its audience, as well as huge inconsistencies in both the story lines which is less important, if at all. Let's just say the show "knew" and was tailored to its intended [shallow] audience.

Implicit in that statement is the acknowledgment that I wouldn't have seen any evidence of Sorkin's leftist leanings in the interviews on THCs documentary.

No, it's not, but it's starting to get personal, petty and off the topic.

That is your characterization of it.

Of course, what I was describing was my opinion, so it was my characterization, if you will. Most of our posts here are opinions, unless we specify or imply that we state the facts.

I saw plenty to show that he was the major mover of aiding the Mujahadeen effort. .... I didn't see anybody faking their admiration and gratitude to Charlie Wilson and those were just some of the people that were helping him. Those old Afghans weren't faking their respect and gratitude either. Those old guys never faked anything in their lives.

Of course, that's exactly what they wanted you to see and why I said that I was disappointed with this "infomercial" on THC - it looked more like promotion of the movie and Charlie Wilson by Wilson and Sorkin than real history of Afghanistan's operation - that's what "promotion" is supposed to be about, and that's what I said it looked like. All "infomercials" are like that. We don't disagree here.

That was his little gig in the Cold War. And his wild life. It's just sour grapes to complain that they didn't work Ronald Reagan into the 90 minutes of film.

See post #82. That's not how it's billed, advertised, promoted, implied or was even originally slated to be in the movie, not as little gig. But we'll chalk it up to my great imagination.

The rest of your post is really a little condescending. I have read every post up until this one of yours. Every word. Including your personal drama theory.

It was not condescending at all, and was not meant to be. I didn't know if you read the THC thread as well, which goes in more detail about THC program and the "making" of the movie which didn't get covered much in this thread. It's exactly the same post I have expressed several times with others and nobody else found it condescending. maybe they just didn't bother to respond. But that's your characterization, so sorry if I offended you.

But I am aware of spin when I see it. I can see very well what is substantive and what isn't...

Good for you, but most / average moviegoers aren't and can't - this movie is directed at them. To them this, and this alone will be The History of "How the Soviets Lost in Afghanistan and Who Brought Down the Soviet Empire". But I have a great imagination.

They didn't exactly hide any warts on THC. Or at least they showed plenty.

Of course, again we agree. They don't want to lie and make Charlie into a saint, it would not fly and besides, after Bill Clinton's escapades in the White House, what is better than to give [my quote from the post] "... most of the credit for success in Afghanistan and fall of the Soviet Empire to one of their own "flawed, boozing, snorting, southern" (D-TX)." That's exactly what's shown in the movie, THC, and exactly how it's advertised.

I just don't see the Vast Left Wing Conspiracy here that you do.

Well, I guess, I could complain that it's your [condescending] [and direct] characterization of me (unlike which I never made about you), but that would be petty and off topic, so I won't. I don't believe so much in Vast Left Wing as "Conspiracy" as much as it is a "Way of Life". And they are pretty good at living it, too. That's why "they" admire Bill Clinton so much, he was such a good salesman of it.

But movies - good, bad, incomplete or misleading - are not that important to argue about and screw up relationships.

Regards.

108 posted on 12/26/2007 12:04:35 AM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy

Wow! You really are paranoid.


109 posted on 12/26/2007 12:30:02 AM PST by TigersEye (Be the answer to someone else's prayer.)
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