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To: Steve_Seattle

****The federal income tax was authorized by the 16th Amendment. The details are spelled out in the federal tax code. Why are people saying the federal income tax is illegal?****

According to the movie and if you know different please post it. The 16th Amendment was not ratified by the states. Correct me if I am wrong, A constitutional amendment must be approved by 75% of the state legislators and the 16th Amendment never achieved this according to the movie.


188 posted on 12/24/2007 2:02:22 PM PST by Reform Canada (Kyoto=>More Unemployment=>More Poverty=>More Homeless=>More Crime=>More Rape & Murder)
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To: Reform Canada
According to the movie and if you know different please post it. The 16th Amendment was not ratified by the states. Correct me if I am wrong, A constitutional amendment must be approved by 75% of the state legislators

You're wrong. It must be approved by 3/4 of the states -- not of the state legislators. A simple majority in the state legislature will do. Or for that matter, the states could hold a constitutional convention to take up the question, but as far as I know that has never happened.

and the 16th Amendment never achieved this according to the movie.

42 of the 48 states ratified the 16th amendment by the end of 1913. It took effect in February, after it was ratified by 36 states. The movie repeats an old, long-ago discredited claim that some jot or tittle was out of place and the 16th amendment is therefore void. No court, no government body, and no serious scholar has bought that bill of goods.

There are, however, a lot of folks who lost their houses or did time in federal prison because they bought into that theory and decided not to pay their taxes.

195 posted on 12/24/2007 2:17:09 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: Reform Canada

It did achieve the necessary states, even if you discount Kentucky and Oklahoma, which allegedly ratified it with text that differed from the official amendment. The arguments are that the actions of the legislatures in some other states in approving it violated their state constitutions...be that as it may, that’s not something that is relevant to the Federal requirement - it just says the state legislature must approve it. If true, there’s a valid argument that the state legislatures may have acted improperly regarding their own procedures, but that’s not a very strong case to say that the amendment was never ratified...and a bit of a distraction from the key argument that our current tax structure is bad and needs reform.


197 posted on 12/24/2007 2:17:59 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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214 posted on 12/24/2007 2:58:08 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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