Posted on 12/24/2007 5:35:07 AM PST by Invisigoth
Not all Christians celebrate Christmas as Christ’s birthday. The purest Christians refuse to do so, because they believe Christmas has pagan roots.
The Christmas tree, the mistletoe are all pagan rituals.
Many people have many different ideas about Christmas and the Holiday Season. I don’t blame large corporations for wanting to duck the controversey and using “Happy Holidays”.
“Purported”? The war on Christmas is quite real.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1943786/posts
“Christianity many centuries ago chose December 25th for whatever reason”
It wasn’t ‘christianty’ that chose it, it was the Pope.
Many Christians to this day refuse to celebrate Christmas, because they believe it has Pagan roots. Are they also part of the ‘war on Christmas’?
Look carefully at the leftist rhetoric this year. I think they now know that a vast majority of Americans are sick of their attacks on Christmas, so they have now shifted to attack the “commerciality” of the holiday, which is safer. They are urging (in the same insincere way they used to opine that they “support the troops”) that Americans get back to the “real meaning” of Christmas and stop all this nasty gift-buying.
In short, they’re after the same thing they always were — attacking the capitalist system, using Christmas as a vehicle.
Where else do children who’s parents don’t take them to church learn about God and Jesus? Our holiday’s like Christmas.
The liberals are going after Christmas now. They’re trying to take every mention of Christ out of Christmas. Next it will be Easter.
It’s not enough that they teach their children to be good little socialist’s. They want to indoctrinate as many children as they can.
One would do well to recall the warning in Ecclesiastes 7:16
"Be not righteous overmuch, and do not make yourself overwise; why should you destroy yourself?"
In other words, it is possible to take legalism to preposterous limits. Anything that has its roots in human culture can be purified and re-signified and enjoyed.
And a toast--- wassail --- to Jesus Christ, the Master of All.
You are mistaken. I am a Christian. And I did not attack Dobson. I just don’t feel that there is any ‘conspiracy’ against Christmas, at least as far as private businesses go. Capitalists want to sell as many products as possible to as many different people from different religions.
As a supporter of capitalism and free enterprise, I sympathize with the desire of merchants to advertise with a phrase that they feel will not offend anyone. I come from a community that is heavily Jewish. Why should my local Macy’s risk losing one customer by displaying a sign that says “Merry Christmas”?
If I owned the store and it were my money on the line, I certainly would not risk diluting my profits to make Dobson or anyone else happy.
Amen.
Great post...I could not agree more!
Constantine never knew anything of "Easter". The holiday to him was "Pascha", the same Greek word used for the Passover of the Jews and obviously derived from the Hebrew pesach. (The same word is used in Latin and all languages derived from it.) You can prove that simply by reading the decree of Nicaea on the dating of Easter in the original Greek; it's online.
The Anglo-Saxon word "Easter" came to be applied to a Christian religious holiday in England and Germany long after Constantine was dead and buried.
Easter, coming from the pagan religions of the east
It had nothing to do with any "pagan religions of the east".
is tied to the solar calendar. Passover is based on the lunar calendar
The calculation of the date of Pascha/Easter is complicated, but it isn't strictly solar. It's a hybrid system that involves both the solar calendar (Gregorian in the west; Julian in the east) and a heuristic lunar equivalent. That's why it falls on different dates each year.
(It's the first Sunday after the first new moon after the vernal equinox, March 21; however, the date of the "first new moon" is calculated using a system of tables, not by actual astronomy.)
Merry Christmas
must we credit pagans with all those things>?>?
I’m a Dobson fan. BMFLR.
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According to Intrade, the winner of the December 12th GOP debate was... Duncan Hunter.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1938773/posts
Why the smart money is on Duncan Hunter
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1926032/posts
"Happy Holidays" etc is foolishness, a surrender to the secularization of society.
If you want to be inclusive, wish Christians Merry Christmas and Jews Happy Chanukah.
Yes.
And to cut off anything tainted by paganism, the Puritans banned ALL that stuff. For an example of Puritan legislation:
"For preventing disorders, arising in several places within this jurisdiction by reason of some still observing such festivals as were superstitiously kept in other communities, to the great dishonor of God and offense of others: it is therefore ordered by this court and the authority thereof that whosoever shall be found observing any such day as Christmas or the like, either by forbearing of labor, feasting, or any other way, upon any such account as aforesaid, every such person so offending shall pay for every such offence five shilling as a fine to the county."
From the records of the General Court
Massachusetts Bay Colony
May 11, 1659
Taliban-ish, hey? Reminds me of Narnia under the Witch: "always winter and never Christmas."
But then again, the greatest Puritan poet, Milton, incorporated Paganism and classical Greek references in his greatest Christian works, like "Paradise Lost." He greatly admired the classics but intended this work to surpass them.
So -- beyond Paganism--- I am glad to incorporate even the nicest bits of Puritanism to the glory of God.
A toast --- Wassail! ---to Mr. Milton.
And a Merry Christmas to you!
And a very Merry Christmas to you and a Blessed New Year of Our Lord 2008.
and to you, dear lady
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