[cva66snipe]

.. it is sad that so many are willing to give up their freedoms in the name of "security" and "order."

It's sad indeed. But even the founders weren't the majority of their day. Many persons were very willing to tolerate the abuses and tyranny of the crown in exchange for security and of course their positions of authority in his kingdom all the way down to the local tax collectors and Constable's. When enough persons finally got their fill of the crowns abuses a nation was born.

[calcowgirl]

When enough persons finally got their fill of the crowns abuses a nation was born.

Let's hope there are enough people still willing to fight for their rights and their freedom to not allow an accelerated death.