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To: PugetSoundSoldier; pissant; GOP_1900AD
The best way to change societies is economically.

And you certainly aren't doing it right. Constantine Menges explained that in detail. But he must be ignored by you, since you would have to change your mind about things if you were a legitimate rational debater here.

We need to put full-bore anti-communists, such as Dr. Constantine Menges, back in charge.

We can make this work. The only way for reform...is regime change. Which we proved we can do with the Soviet Union. And we did it in basically 8 and a half years.

Your strategy of constant-cave-in and and economic sell-out has proven that you can't. You have had this policy in place for basically 16 years. And the menace grows daily. You have failed. And are a failure if you are serious about "reforming" China.

We anti-communists can get it done... and the RINOs and shills scream every time that a real anti-communist gets close to an opportunity to implement truly anticommunist foreign policy.

That is the problem. You are corrupt. You even admit it. Your livelihood depends on continuing to be relocated in China, and sell to the U.S., thereby to undermine the U.S. manufacturing and increase its trade debt, and bolster China's manufacturing and trade surplus. Hence your lame, and inaccurate attacks on Hunter as one illustration of your shrillness.

It's been proven since the time of Rome - economic prosperity will create peace, and ease tensions.

What a naive and hopelessly incomplete understanding of history. Which clearly you fail to grasp any of. Japan for example was quite prosperous before they launched their attack on China or Pearl Harbor.

How many contradictions of your thesis does it take for you to comprehend that no amount of Chicom prosperity is going to end their enmity? Or deviate from their plan to use their loot to subvert, weaken and ultimately destroy us and our liberties?

The Chicoms are ideological despots who laugh every time you think you control "your" wholly-owned factory in China.

Or a President, or Commerce Secretary or Treasury Secretary bleats the standard refrain about their being "stakesholders" in the international trading system: "Tell your President that is not the relationship we have."

And the chilling outline of their doctrine of covert war preparation: "It matters not whether you call the cat yellow or black, but whether it catches mice."

The mice in his quote, referring to a war story by one of his most popular communist generals...was victories in the field. And he was broadening it to also mean capture of industry and technology to bolster that military strength. That is what Deng Xiaoping meant, as confirmed by Chinese scholars.

Duncan Hunter is simply an isolationist who doesn't recognize history, and he's completely wrong on trade.

I could say that you are simply a shill. Your arguments cannot be distinguished from one. Your facile "relativism" ...equating the trade espionage of France and Britain say...with the deeply sinister conduct of the Chicoms to steal extremely critical and vital defense info, encryption, codes, and technology and disinform our intel branches...is simply beyond the pale.

It needs to be pointed out that neither France (no matter our rivalry) or Britain...has been threatening to nuke the USA. The Chicoms do...and repeatedly.

If you were on the level, you would have to revisit the treason tag you admit has been widely pinned on you. Your soft-headed notion that you are 'reforming' China in the right way, by letting things go precisely as the Chicoms dictate...is devoid of merit. Your love for China is also clearly at odds with your love for America, no matter your denials when you are busted on it, as one of our greatest Presidents observed:

The man who loves other countries as much as his own stands on a level with the man who loves other women as much as he loves his own wife.
--Theodore Roosevelt

As for Duncan Hunter, I have studied him at great length and find he is no way an "isolationist." He is quite the contrary...A Nationalist who wishes to defend OUR INTERESTS on the global stage. This makes him a distinct contrast from the CFR Globalists who think they have a monopoly on internationalism. And it is also clear that his understanding of our foes, and how industrial transfers relate to our relative defense preparedness and economics transcends yours or the Chicom apologist lobby.


43 posted on 12/22/2007 12:45:03 PM PST by Paul Ross (Dear Mary LaRonald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: Paul Ross

Another one who’s drunk the Thomas P.M. Barnett Koolaid. They are popping up like weeds. “Minstry plus economic growth will change China into a ‘core’ nation, blah, blah, blah.”


100 posted on 12/24/2007 11:29:22 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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