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Huckabee ... The GOP's Cynical Use of Religion Has Come Home to Roost
History News Network ^ | 12-18-07 | Arianna Huffington

Posted on 12/20/2007 9:28:38 AM PST by Between the Lines

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To: goldstategop

Their agenda is fine as long as it does not involve using government to advance their own social agenda. When they do that then they are not all that different than liberals who want to use government to solve their imagined problems.


21 posted on 12/20/2007 9:41:34 AM PST by misterrob (14 down, 5 more til the Pats win the SB again.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t consider a liberal pragmatist like Huckabee much of an evangelical Christian.

Christianity understands that gratuitous raising of taxes is theft. That the Death penalty is practiced and taught by God, that the release of violent criminals makes one guilty of murder. Evangelical Christianity does not compromise its position for political advantage.

Nor does it lie about theological degrees.

Though I voted for Bush the elder even after his broken pledge (and would again), I’ll never support Huck.


22 posted on 12/20/2007 9:45:09 AM PST by TFMcGuire (Either you are an American, or you are a liberal)
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To: Between the Lines
They are really trying to run against George Bush. They know the only way they can get the edge in this race is if they run against George Bush again. So they try to make Mike Huckabee George Bush incarnate.
23 posted on 12/20/2007 9:45:11 AM PST by Yaakov The Orator
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To: Between the Lines
Senorita Huffnpuff, just like the rest of the radical lefties, not only possess no moral compass whatsoever, and no common sense, she hasn’t got an inkling of a clue WHAT she is talking about. We don’t oppose Huckabee because he is Christian, we oppose him because he is a liberal!!!
24 posted on 12/20/2007 9:45:40 AM PST by gidget7 ( Vote for the Arsenal of Democracy, because America RUNS on Duncan!)
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To: gracesdad

Are you being obtuse? No one disputes that Barack Hussein Obama’s father and step-father were both Muslim. That makes Barack a Muslim by birth under Sharia Law, or weren’t you aware of that? He may now attend a Christian Church and profess to be a Christian, but under Islamic law he is either an apostate or still a Muslim. Which is it? I don’t know.


25 posted on 12/20/2007 9:45:45 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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To: Between the Lines

BS. The reason we have an issue with him is becuase he’s not a Conservative. If he had a track record of cutting taxes, not supporting illegal immigration, and being tough on crime...I would be extremely supportive of the Huckster.


26 posted on 12/20/2007 9:45:51 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: colorado tanker
The problem with Huckabee is he's a lightweight on the issues and did not govern as a conservative in Arkansas, which leaves him nothing but his social conservatism and faith to run on. He would almost surely lose.

This evangelical agrees with you 100%. Of course, none of the frontrunners have much to say for their conservative credentials in governance. The only two conservatives in this race are gonzo.

27 posted on 12/20/2007 9:46:37 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Look at all the 2007 sign-ups defending B. Hussein. Imagine that.


28 posted on 12/20/2007 9:47:59 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard ("and alllll the children are insane")
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To: Between the Lines
What garbage. Huckabee's social conservatism is not the source of ire among hard-core conservatives. The problem is that, aside from his staunch social conservatism, Huckabee is a left-winger.
29 posted on 12/20/2007 9:49:47 AM PST by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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To: Slapshot68
Issues, please.

Huckabee has made religion, his and other candidates, an issue. That alone should disqualify him.

30 posted on 12/20/2007 9:49:58 AM PST by Prokopton
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To: Bogtrotter52
...eventually were revealed as complete phonies. I expect the same for this rhino.

Exactly. I object to Huckster not because of his (supposed) piety, but because he is a fake. Huck fronts for the same organized criminal interests as Klinton.

31 posted on 12/20/2007 9:50:39 AM PST by Poincare
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To: agere_contra

Really? Those of us who prefer limited government don’t want him either.


32 posted on 12/20/2007 9:50:47 AM PST by misterrob (14 down, 5 more til the Pats win the SB again.)
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To: ModelBreaker
I'm still trying to figure out who to back.

I like Thompson, but he seems to be sleepwalking through the campaign. Romney today is a good fit with my views, but are his conversions sincere? I don't think any of the second rankers are electable. What to do . . . .

33 posted on 12/20/2007 9:51:41 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

eggzactly (had to write that word, seen it around, cute, first time writing it for me, it was good too...)


34 posted on 12/20/2007 9:52:57 AM PST by Blind Eye Jones
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To: Between the Lines

Those of us who were ‘broken glass’’ voters in a few recent elections only to find we’d been defrauded, lied to, slandered, and our nation diminished, will never ever make that mistake again.
Those of us who voted Republican only to be greeted with open borders, NoChildLeftBehind (and no Child Gets Ahead either), Johnny Sutton, McCain-Feingold, Mike Chertoff, and all the rest, are not likely to make the same mistake again.
Vote against Huckabee or whomever as your conscience allows.


35 posted on 12/20/2007 9:54:17 AM PST by IrishMike (Liberalism is Jihad from within)
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To: misterrob
Really? Those of us who prefer limited government don’t want him either.

Don't misunderstand me. Huck is absolutely the wrong guy for America. But Huffington's crazy hate almost makes me a believer.

36 posted on 12/20/2007 9:54:30 AM PST by agere_contra (Do not confuse the wealth of nations with the wealth of government - FDT)
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To: Between the Lines

And so, the Huffter shows what the Huckster truly represents: a tool for splitting the Party...


37 posted on 12/20/2007 9:55:23 AM PST by LRS (It's time to put Hillary on the 3:10 to Yuma...)
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To: ModelBreaker; All

FRED THOMPSON is the best person to lead this country. He is a true conservative and has been his entire life. All one has to do is check his record to see this.

During my time in the Army as am Intelligence Analyst, I served under both Presidents Carter and Reagan (as my commanders in chief). Without argument, President Reagan was the best commander-in-chief a military person could ever have served under. Fred Thompson possesses the same qualities and vision as President Reagan in that he is strong on national defense and sees a dire need to secure our borders and control immigration.

I can think of no better person to lead this country and fix the problems we have. He is the only candidate from either party who has specific and detailed plans on border security and immigration reform; revitalization of America’s armed forces; saving and protecting Social Security; and tax relief and economic growth. These are detailed on his Web site at www.fred08.com. I challenge you to find any other candidate who has laid out specific plans to fix anything.

Fred Thompson has published his first principles, some of which are mentioned above. In addition to those, he strongly believes in individual liberty, personal responsibility, limited government, federalism, traditional American values, the rule of law and is a strong proponent of the Second Amendment — all concepts established during the birth of our country and documented in our Constitution.

Again, try to find any candidate who has laid out their plans to “fix” this country. You will find they all speak in vague and abstract terms on their plans.

For those who have heard Fred Thompson speak, you will usually hear him say that the Fred Thompson you see today is the same Fred Thompson you saw yesterday and is the same Fred Thompson you will see tomorrow. He stands by his principles and values and doesn’t shift his positions based on polls or public opinion; in other words, he doesn’t say what the voters want to hear just to get elected, but remains steadfast on his views and convictions.

During his time in the Senate he focused on three areas: to lower taxes, strengthen national security and expose waste in the federal government. Fred Thompson has foreign policy experience, having served as member of the Senate Foreign Relations and Senate Intelligence committees.

As chairman of the Senate Governmental Affairs Committee, he opened the investigation in 1997 on the Chinese government’s attempt to influence American policies and elections, and this investigation identified connections with the Clinton administration (documented in the committee’s report).

As a member of the Finance Committee, he worked tirelessly to enact three major tax-cut bills. Fred Thompson remains steadfast and even though a person may not agree with all his views and he understands some may disagree with him, you can count on him to be consistent and unwavering.

Don’t be fooled by his laid back approach and what critics call his “laziness.” As a former assistant U.S. attorney, he earned a reputation as a tough prosecutor and he possesses the toughness this country needs in order to tackle today’s and tomorrow’s issues.

I ask that you take a hard look at what this country needs, then take a hard look at all the other candidates’ views, policies, their records and their track record on consistency. Fred Thompson possesses integrity, loyalty, commitment, energy and decisiveness, all traits of an effective leader, and will emerge as the best person to take this country boldly forward.


38 posted on 12/20/2007 9:56:33 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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To: Prokopton
Huck is running on his religion, using leftwing talking points, and running on a liberal platform.

No way can he claim victim-hood by the “Republican establishment”, that boogyman is an illusion used to garner votes, just like his dissing of another candidates' religion garnered votes.

39 posted on 12/20/2007 9:57:07 AM PST by roses of sharon
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