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New poll has McCain tied with Romney in NH.
American Research Group ^ | 12/20/2007 | American Research Group

Posted on 12/20/2007 9:13:49 AM PST by tj21807

Romney - 26% (down 10 points) McCain - 26 % (up 15 points) Giuliani - 16% (down 6 points) Huckabee - 11% (down 2, wahoo!) Undedecided - 10% Thompson - 4% (up 1) Paul - 4% (up 2)


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; mccain; nh2008; romney
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Two points:

1. If you lived in NH, only a vote for the top 4 on that poll has a shot to win....so which do you vote for?

2. How will the McCain story on Drudge impact the race?

1 posted on 12/20/2007 9:13:50 AM PST by tj21807
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To: tj21807

What’s the explanation for McCain’s surge there? Any idea?


2 posted on 12/20/2007 9:20:56 AM PST by imd102
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To: tj21807

You vote for McCain, knowing that it won’t translate into wins in the south, midwest or west (save Arizona). Huck wins Iowa, McCain wins NH, Romney is toast, Giuliani wins or places in some northeast and west coast states, and Thompson and Huck slug it out down south.

I think we are looking at a brokered convention.


3 posted on 12/20/2007 9:22:03 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (Not a newbie, I just wanted a new screen name.)
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To: Dr. Sivana
I think we are looking at a brokered convention.

From your lips to God's ears. Only way we have a chance to unite the party with a fiscal and social conservative candidate. Say . . . Duncan Hunter.

4 posted on 12/20/2007 9:25:16 AM PST by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: tj21807

5 posted on 12/20/2007 9:30:41 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: imd102

‘Rat crossover voting.


6 posted on 12/20/2007 9:31:02 AM PST by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president!)
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To: Dr. Sivana
I think we are looking at a brokered convention.

Nixon '08! He's tanned, rested, and ready. Well, at least rested.

7 posted on 12/20/2007 9:31:34 AM PST by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: tj21807

Big story this week:

Guiliani’s collapse.

Guiliani was supposed to be challenging Romney for New Hampshire, but it appears that McCain has been able to warp time back to 2000 in the mind of the voters up there.

Guiliani isn’t a player in Iowa, he is now struggling for third in New Hampshire, and he is losing ground swiftly in the National polls and the Florida polls.

His little trip to the hospital last night will remind people of his cancer scare from a few years back.

The Huck-a-boom appears to be waning as well, and the MSM is back to pushing that “Maverick” like they did in 2000. But people have already got a good look at McCain back then and they said no. Don’t think his mini-surge will last.


8 posted on 12/20/2007 9:34:01 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: imd102

I live in NH so I can give a little insight into his recent surge.

The McCain camp has been very active up here the last few weeks. Numerous TV spots, mailers three times a week.

Not to mention some big endorsements from newspapers in the state.

Plus independents seem to be breaking towards him.

Many NH conservatives have issues with McCain but view him as less of an unknown in terms of stances on issues.

McCain is clearly playing for a NH win or a very close second. Anything else will take him out of the race permanently.


9 posted on 12/20/2007 9:34:04 AM PST by tj21807
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To: Dr. Sivana

Yup. The media has played us.


10 posted on 12/20/2007 9:41:26 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Friends don't let friends vote Huckabee)
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To: imd102

It looks like people are starting to take a more serious look at the candidates and really don’t like what they see in Huck, Guiliani, Mitt and are turning to someone that is more established in McCain.


11 posted on 12/20/2007 10:19:35 AM PST by WILLIALAL
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To: tj21807
Also --

ARG is trash.

Yes, even when it shows Romney falling.

12 posted on 12/20/2007 10:23:46 AM PST by JohnnyZ (victim victim Mitt victim victim Romneyvictim victim victim so persecuted, poor me!)
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To: Owen

You have pointed out on other threads that a winning campaign machine requires ready and sufficient money and a first-class staff. It looks like McCain is sprinting strongly in Iowa and NH and moving up rapidly. Do you think he has sufficient money and a sharp enough staff to win either or both states in the time remaining?


13 posted on 12/20/2007 10:26:01 AM PST by JCEccles
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You have pointed out on other threads that a winning campaign machine requires ready and sufficient money and a first-class staff.

I wish that kind of stupid tripe would die a long-deserved, miserable death.

Candidate and message are far superior assets than either of the above.

14 posted on 12/20/2007 10:29:51 AM PST by JohnnyZ (victim victim Mitt victim victim Romneyvictim victim victim so persecuted, poor me!)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Yikes...so who’s left ?

ah....FRED


15 posted on 12/20/2007 10:30:38 AM PST by stylin19a
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To: tj21807

I think a big turning point for McCane in NH is when the Union Leader endorsed him.


16 posted on 12/20/2007 10:31:25 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: Owen; JohnnyZ
Owen, JohnnyZ thinks you're an idiot. See above.

But then, he thinks Fred should be creaming everybody just on presence, personality, and point-papers alone without hard effort, first-class staff, or sufficient money.

The hard evidence shows Fred's support dropping like a stone down a well.

Should I believe JohnnyZ or the evidence? What a conundrum.

17 posted on 12/20/2007 10:37:00 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: imd102

“What’s the explanation for McCain’s surge there? Any idea?”

1. The MSM’s loving, devotional coverage of McCain as a “comeback kid”.
In other words, he’s the guy who suffered (got SPANKED, in VOA’s
opinion) for a “principled” stand on “comprehensive immigration AMNESTY reform”.
This is enough for the MSM to extend a “halo effect” as they see
him as some sort of saint for trying to give the country to the illegals.

2. And McCain has done a real “fighting back” job; got to give him personal
credit for that.

But I’d not vote for McCain in a primary unless he was simply the
least palatable choice.
His loving support of AMNESTY for ILLEGAL invaders is just too much
for me to swallow.

For another looks at McCain, here’s a good read:
“American Patriot; The Life And Wars of Bud Day”
by Robert Coram
(McCain is discussed in this GREAT book about Col. Bud Day)

I respect McCain for most of his service; he just loses me when he
starts promoting “more than legal rights” for illegals.


18 posted on 12/20/2007 10:39:05 AM PST by VOA
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To: JCEccles; Owen

Right now Huckabee is creaming everyone based on candidate and message, with no money and no expensive operation. So yes, it’s a pretty idiotic time to be crowing about how money and staff are king.


19 posted on 12/20/2007 10:40:35 AM PST by JohnnyZ (victim victim Mitt victim victim Romneyvictim victim victim so persecuted, poor me!)
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To: imd102
What’s the explanation for McCain’s surge there? Any idea?

The state was inundated by solar spirit flares from the star kolbar that was supposed to aid the Romulan, but when the spirit flares merged with earth's atmosphere they mutated into testosterone which, quite naturally, would benefit McCain.

20 posted on 12/20/2007 10:41:16 AM PST by meandog (I'm one of the FEW and the BRAVE FReepers still supporting John McCain)
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