Posted on 12/20/2007 5:36:13 AM PST by Sopater
WASHINGTON The Lakota Indians, who gave the world legendary warriors Sitting Bull and Crazy Horse, have withdrawn from treaties with the United States.
"We are no longer citizens of the United States of America and all those who live in the five-state area that encompasses our country are free to join us,'' long-time Indian rights activist Russell Means said.
A delegation of Lakota leaders has delivered a message to the State Department, and said they were unilaterally withdrawing from treaties they signed with the federal government of the U.S., some of them more than 150 years old.
The group also visited the Bolivian, Chilean, South African and Venezuelan embassies, and would continue on their diplomatic mission and take it overseas in the coming weeks and months.
Lakota country includes parts of the states of Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota, Montana and Wyoming.
The new country would issue its own passports and driving licences, and living there would be tax-free - provided residents renounce their U.S. citizenship, Mr Means said.
The treaties signed with the U.S. were merely "worthless words on worthless paper," the Lakota freedom activists said.
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Russell is actually close kin politically with the anti-tax separatist groups like the Freemen of Montana and Posse Commitatus of the Dakotas. But he is genuinely a nice guy like Willie Nelson. He'd give you the shirt off his back if he thought you needed it worse.
But this is an interesting (and possibly dangerous) development. They could apply to the UN for “peacekeepers” like Kosovo. Now they wouldn’t get any, but the resulting legal hijinks could make a real mess of things.
They were eaten by mice.
Thanks for the info.
Here’s a tip on internet posting: Length of message is not equal to Emotional state. There is a difference between making a reasoned logical argument and being upset. Sorry you have the two confused.
You have also confused something else. Unfairness in the past is one thing, continued unfairness in the PRESENT is entirely different. That is the whole point you seem to be missing. But then it is always easier to ignore difficult problems. Only thing is, they usually end up getting bigger if you don’t address and deal with them. But then we all have different ways of dealing with issues, I tend to address them but thats just me.
Moslim is an accepted spelling in other languages, forgive my offensive usage. It actually does appear just like that in various spell checkers, I looked just for you.
Oh, before I forget, I use caps for emphasis, sorry I didn’t spell that out for you as well, my bad.
PS: please on next post, deal with the ISSUE rather than inanities? It rather invalidates your point ov view...
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Merry Christmas and have a great evening!
Are they not free to move to where the jobs are?
Even Mexicans know how to fix this. It's called a Maquiladora.
I consider mohammedan to be the proper usage
The red road is a reference to a pathway that is positive in life and has nothing to do with the racial aspects of it, as in if you are in recovery from alcoholism, you begin walking the “red road.”
WE in MA know when we got it good. You ain’t gettin’ rid of ys that easy. You are going to have to push us into Cape Cod Bay.
Right over the So Dakota line, south of the Res, is White Clay, NE. A tiny town built soley on selling the Sioux beer and liquor..
His antics insured that Fairchild industries shut down a new electronics plant on the Navajo/Dineh Reservation just before it opened.
Quite a communist idiot . . .
though . . . if the Globalists have their way . . .
his intentions may not be that far fetched . . . however doomed to failure.
I enccourage you to go there and visit...it would give you persepective that you may want to have. I know that it gave me an education. But then again, I need much of that.
Simple solution:
Ban Indian gaming. Full stop.
By both. The first Indians Europeans in North America encountered were the Aztecs, Toltecs, etc [with a governmental form not totally alien to the Europeans], the Powhattan Confederation, the [later named] Wampanoag Confederation, and the Iroquois Confederation [who are now claiming they gave Franklin and the boys the idea for our governmental form.
European settlers wound up fighting the Powhattans [Opechancanough’s Wars], the Wampanoags [King Philip’s War], the Pontiac Confederacy, and at least four of the Six Nations of the Iroquois. From the beginning, Americans treated with Indians as separate nations, which the Indians seemed to prefer [logical in a society based on communal use of resources].
The mistake the U.S made came under Grant, when the cultural separatists won out over the assimilationists, and the old system continued. Indians should have been integrated into the society as individuals, given citizenship, land allotments under the Homestead Act, and temporay support and assistance in transitioning from hunter-gathering to agriculture [or in the case of the Cheyenne, Pawnee and other tribes, transitioning back to agriculture].
I have plenty of empathy and understanding for the problems Indians face which is probably why I reject your liberal-like excuse making. Leaning on such bleeding heart crutches is one reason those problems still exist after more than a century.
Here are the two points I made in summary if you want to try addressing them substantively...
1. The land on reservations is essentially no different than the surrounding land where others have made sustaining if not lucrative livings. As an example; in south eastern Montana I ran into anglo ranchers leasing land right on the Crow res to graze cattle.
2. Blaming liquor stores for rampant alcoholism is wrong. The implied solution is to interfere with free commerce by gov fiat. That is wrong. The basis for that interference would be what? race? culture? residential status? family lineage? Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
Nice post.
Do you support the Lakota Freedom Delegation’s declaration of sovereign-nation status?
Yes (50 Votes, 23%)
No (172 Votes, 77%)
Total Votes: 222
http://www.rapidcityjournal.com/
Means said anyone could live in the Lakota Nation, tax free, as long as they renounced their U.S. citizenship.
Means’ group is based in Porcupine on Pine Ridge Indian Reservation.
It is not an agency or branch of the Oglala Sioux Tribe. Means ran unsuccessfully for president of the tribe in 2006.
http://www.rapidcityjournal.com/articles/2007/12/20/news/local/doc476a99630633e335271152.txt
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