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To: ZacandPook
By October 2001, they knew it was “our stuff.”

"Our stuff" was sent to Iraq among other places.

54 posted on 12/24/2007 8:01:17 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (Just laugh at them!)
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To: Jabba the Nutt
"Our stuff" is invariably a reference to a small sample of a single anthrax cultivar used as a universal standard worldwide.

Saddam's people had only to find a dead cow, sheep or goat out in a field somewhere to find anthrax to start developing suitible spores.

It's not like anthrax is a secretive bacteria.

55 posted on 12/26/2007 8:14:14 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Jabba the Nutt

The five purchase orders documenting the strains sent by the American Type Culture Collection in the mid-1980s did not include Ames, the strain used in the attacks. ATCC did not have Ames in its catalog.

Iraq’s attempt to get Ames a few years later after a British conference confirms that at the time they did not have Ames. (They had, for example, the second best, Vollum).

Iraq may very have obtained Ames. Alibek points out that a lead Russian scientist was helping them and he had access to Ames. Russia, Alibek says, had a spy at Ft. Detrick and would get all specimens and work within 6 months.

But given that all the evidence points to US-based supporters of Al Qaeda, and not Iraq, the more interesting question is whether ATCC had virulent Ames in its patent repository. ATCC sponsored Ali Al-Timimi’s program. A former ATCC employee says Ali had access to that patent repository. ATCC does not deny to me that its patent repository had virulent Ames — it just refuses to confirm that it did or not.

By “our stuff,” rather than referring to Ames, I meant that the Administration by December was of the view that the evidence pointed to a US biodefense insider.

There was a lot of confusion over the distribution of Ames, but the best view is that the FBI has identified 16 labs known to have had it — and perhaps the maximum number of labs that had it is 20-30. The FBI notes that in the case of some foreign labs, they are not in a position to know.

Ayman Zawahiri felt that the koran dictated that they use the weapons of their enemies.

Good propaganda too.


56 posted on 12/27/2007 3:38:50 AM PST by ZacandPook
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