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To: Toddsterpatriot

well, I am glad at least you are reading their site. But what you are missing is the fact that they have found a way with their protium reactors that will indeed use only water and the catalyst to run cars for pennies to the gallon. You just are wrong about needing an equal amount of energy in order to get the energy from water. They and others have already proved that to be wrong. Hydrogen has the most energy per weight ratio of any fuel, that’s why nasa uses it for their rockets and why it will set us free from middle east oil dependency and open up a huge new world of economic benefits for all. The oil companies will suffer for sure, but at the great benefit of the whole world. Are we supposed to continue to drag our feet in regards to great new technologies in order to keep the oil industry alive? Of course not.


165 posted on 12/29/2007 9:36:03 AM PST by fabian
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To: fabian

Your Protium company only guarantees a 10% increase in fuel economy using their hydrogen system. Consider the math... Assume I drive a vehicle that gets 25mpg, I drive 12,000 per year, and gas is $3.00 per gallon. That means I use $480 gallons of gas per year, costing $1,440.

Now using their system, I get 27.5 mpg. That means I now use 436 gallons per year costing $1309. Their system “saves” me $130 per year.

Unfortunately, their system costs $900 + labor. Assuming two hours at $60/hour, they total costs is $1,200. It takes 9.2 years to break even, or 12.7 years at a 5% cost of capital.

The good news is that if I install today, by 2020 I’ll break even. The bad news is, I’ll be driving a 13 year old POS.


166 posted on 12/29/2007 11:12:51 AM PST by Fan of Fiat
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To: fabian
You just are wrong about needing an equal amount of energy in order to get the energy from water.

Yeah, tell it to Einstein.

The oil companies will suffer for sure

LOL!

Are we supposed to continue to drag our feet in regards to great new technologies in order to keep the oil industry alive?

Well, a perpetual motion machine or a protium "reactor" that gets more energy out of water than you put in would certainly be a new technology. Unfortunately, neither will happen.

168 posted on 12/29/2007 2:17:05 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (What came first, the bad math or the goldbuggery?)
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To: fabian
Hydrogen has the most energy per weight ratio of any fuel, that’s why nasa uses it for their rockets

As soon as you start using liquid hydrogen in your car, let me know.

and why it will set us free from middle east oil dependency and open up a huge new world of economic benefits for all.

And all this hydrogen is going to be made by protium reactors? If not, where will the energy come from for this wonderful hydrogen future?

170 posted on 12/30/2007 10:47:08 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (What came first, the bad math or the goldbuggery?)
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