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To: TheDon
All of this worry over the number of changes [to the Book of Mormon] is specious.

"I told the brethren that the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on the earth ... " (Joseph Smith, History of the Church, Vol. 4, page 461)

Actually, as noted HERE, the LDS Church has made almost 4,000 changes, and many of them are substantial.

But I was told Joseph translated the golden plates using "Urim and Thummin" (i.e. peep-spectacles) so there could be no errors of transmission? And didn't LDS officials teach every word and every letter was given to [Joseph Smith] by the gift and power of God?

And didn't Joseph claim the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth? If so, why do dozens of obvious ERRORS remain in the Book of Mormon? Do these mistakes concern Mormons or their Church Authorities? Will the errors ever be corrected like the text was?

And what about the CHANGES to Doctrine and Covenants? I was told that book was based on revelations which came directly from God. Did He change His mind, or was He wrong the first time?

And what about all the CONTRADICTIONS between Mormon scripture? How can something be impeccable when it, in fact, impeaches itself?

As noted before, in light of the above, I have repeatedly asked: How can someone know the Standard Works are true and Joseph Smith was not a false prophet? And as mentioned previously, I have yet to receive a reasoned response.

Perhaps today ... perhaps on this thread ...

56 posted on 12/19/2007 1:31:47 PM PST by Zakeet (Be thankful we don't get all the government we pay for)
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To: Zakeet

Well, there’s the first problem.

Joseph Smith translated the alleged Golden Plates not with the Urim and thummin, but with....get this.....yes, Southpark was quite accurate.......putting a rock in his hat, pulling the hat over his face, so as to exclude all light, and speaking words that were then written down by his scribes.

95% of all Mormons don’t know it happened this way as they have been told a different, more glorius and fantastic story.

But, the way it happened, as I have described above, is an account given by one of the three attesting witnesses to the veracity of the whole story, as well as Joseph Smith’s own mother.


59 posted on 12/19/2007 1:38:27 PM PST by nesnah
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