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To: allmendream
==No, I actually believe the universe was INTELLIGENTLY designed not INCOMPETENTLY designed.

No you don't.

==I think GOD created the universe to be governed by natural law, and set up a system of forces and particles that made the creation of stars and planets and the evolution of life inevitable

Sounds like a deistic statement of faith in evolution.

==I.D.; which I call ‘Incompetent Design’ posits that the mechanism of mutation and natural selection that is a inherent feature of the life that HE created is somehow insufficient

There you go again, placing your faith in Darwin.

==So your really saying that either I believe what you believe about a 6,000 year old universe, or an Incompetent Designer or I am not in the community of faith or among the saved?

Can you read, Allmendream? I said no such thing. And btw, it is you who have downgraded God to the level of incompetent designer.

==“The truth of our faith becomes a matter of ridicule among the infidels if any Catholic, not gifted with the necessary scientific learning, presents as dogma what scientific scrutiny shows to be false.”—St. Thomas Aquinas

Thomas Aquinas was not referring to Creation Scientists. There are thousands of scientists gifted with the necessary scientific learning, and with credentials far superior than your own, who all maintain that random mutation plus natural selection is insufficient to explain the complexity of life...and is therefor falsified.

101 posted on 12/20/2007 7:59:50 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts; allmendream
"There are thousands of scientists gifted with the necessary scientific learning, and with credentials far superior than your own, who all maintain that random mutation plus natural selection is insufficient to explain the complexity of life...and is therefor falsified."

Its amazing what sandcastles can be built on a simple, but erroneous assumption. The assumption that mutation can result in useful, life prolonging increases in information has never been demonstrated to be true; it is simply assumed to be so when a change is observed. A far more likely cause of change is the preprogrammed adaptability that our creator has provided for his creation.

133 posted on 12/28/2007 10:02:16 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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