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To: wintertime
Thank you for your kind reply. I would like to say, in defense of my school and others like it, that there are lights out there. My own school is K-8, with two or three classes per grade level. Many of the teachers are Christians, and we get together weekly to pray and talk about issues. It's a small town situation, and everybody either knows each other or are related in some fashion. Our Christmas program was just that: A Christmas program, not some dumba$$, watered down "Sparkle Season" program, as is seen in lesser schools. Our discipline program is solid, so solid that the veep (a Christian himself) expelled no less than 10 kids last year for assorted violations. We can say "Merry Christmas" if we want, and I showed "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe," complete with a study guide supplied by the other teacher (a sister in the Lord) that asked a LOT of pointed questions about Aslan.

Maybe for some places it is too far gone. San Francisco, New Yahk, Los Angeles. If Mrs. Othniel and I lived there, then we would homeschool, no question. But there are lights out there, and I believe my site is one of them.

As for the 85%, I know that's probably tied in to going to a secular university....alone....away from parents or any other means of support. But with parents who are aware of the risks, a shorter leash is a better idea. A lot of parents don't discuss what happens in class when kids are in college. Too bad. How many parents just toss their kids out the door when they finish high school, instead of keeping them around, examining what they spend their money on, spending the time to do research about the teachers and the classes? When I left for university, I knew nobody, had no church, none of that. But I found friends, got plugged in to a church, and didn't fall away. But that was years ago.

Not everyone is made to homeschool. Even though my kids go to a government school, Mrs. Othniel and I are very careful to ask for, and get, literature lists, copies of science curriucula, and the like. We push for what we want, and it tells the school that we are aware of what is out there. We have never been dissatisfied with any of our kids' teachers. The few bumps the state books have put in our road have been dealt with, by either me or Mrs. O. (who has a masters in English Lit, for which she had to slog through, and reject, a lot of opinions and interepretations of Shakespeare and the like). We have openly discussed, as much as is age appropriate, homosexuality. The kids know what it is, know it's out there, and know that it is wrong is God's eyes. They know that our Lord Jesus loves gays, but won't tolerate the sin ("Would God let an unrepentant axe murderer into heaven?"). We have good talks about it.

Again, thank you for your reply. Let me state again that I reject this SB 777, and will pray against it, completely disobey it, and violently defend my students against it and any of its swishy proponents. God Bless You, and Merry Christmas!

70 posted on 12/18/2007 7:53:22 PM PST by Othniel (Mohammad: False Prophet and Smeghead Deluxe....)
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To: Othniel
“Maybe for some places it is too far gone. San Francisco, New Yahk, Los Angeles. If Mrs. Othniel and I lived there, then we would homeschool, no question. But there are lights out there, and I believe my site is one of them.”

The answer to this question will clarify your writing:

Are you, or are you not a dues-paying member of the NEA?

73 posted on 12/18/2007 8:31:25 PM PST by RavenATB
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To: Othniel

If people would leave the mega cities and realize the po dunk USA still has values, we’d be better off. Our town still has annual round the clock Bible reading marathon weekend ON THE COURTHOUSE STEPS ...


86 posted on 12/19/2007 6:31:56 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (A few Rams must look after the sheep 'til the Good Shepherd returns...)
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To: Othniel
As for the 85%, I know that’s probably tied in to going to a secular university....alone....away from parents or any other means of support.

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Othniel,

Going to college does not explain the loss of faith of those schooled in government schools. If going to college were an explanation we would see similar stats for homeschoolers, but we don’t.

The following is from Dr. Bruce Shortt’s report to the Southern Baptist Convention:

“Research by Dr. Brian Ray, founder of NHERI, found that 94% of all homeschooled children retained their faith into adulthood.”

“In 2002 the SBC’s Council on Family Life reported that roughly 88% of our children leave the church within 2 years after graduating from high school. It is reported by LifeWay’s Zan Tyler that Josh McDowell Ministries pegs the number who leave at 92%.3”

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:kY4WNVux_NIJ:www.exodusmandate.org/20070503-resolution/2007-letter-to-committee-members.doc+Dr.+Bryan+Ray+percentage+Christian+children+leave+faith&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=us

97 posted on 12/19/2007 1:55:15 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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