Posted on 12/18/2007 4:51:48 PM PST by wagglebee
That said I have to ask why any 2 year old would be affected ? personal irresponsibility and nannyism to the extreme
How does social darwinism and homo agenda exist in the same camp ? they cant breed so they must extinct themselves without recruiting...satan marches on...
Agree 100%. “Live and Let Live” is a two-way street.
Mrs Gilbo went pro choice on that one, and declined their invitation/request for donations...
I think “metmom” is now handling all of the homeschool pinglists.
If people would leave the mega cities and realize the po dunk USA still has values, we’d be better off. Our town still has annual round the clock Bible reading marathon weekend ON THE COURTHOUSE STEPS ...
When I read stories such as this (God help me) I realize that it’s time for another tea party in this country. Of course, we are nowhere near that far along..
2 percent is generous. The last census has them at 1 percent, and possibly less than that.
“85% of those children raised in strong Christian homes abandon their faith within 2 years of leaving government school, however 90 to 95% of homeschoolers remain faithful. It is evident that the government school are amazing effective in proselytizing their secular humanist religion to children with Christian parents.”
I am currently engaged in a tough debate with my wife over public schooling (her position) and private (church) schooling, and our daughter is 2.5 years old.
I send her information several times a week pointing out the failures and evil that exist in many public schools, and would really like to share this information with her. Do you have a link to the study? That’s definite bookmark material. I checked the Exodus site you provided, but didn’t see it there.
Many warned California would see new laws such as S.B. 777 if Schwarzenegger became California's governor. Some people, including some Freepers rallied for Schwarzenegger and against McClintock and said "a vote for McClintock is a vote for Bustamonte." They further said homosexuality would be normallized all the more if Bustamonte were California's governor.
Other Californians said there isn't much of a difference between Schwarzenegger and Bustamonte. They refused to support and vote for Schwarzenegger.
I remember some California freepers saying Schwarzenegger would give California the same homosexual laws Bustamonte would give California, it would just happen more slowly. Those who supported Schwarzenegger disagreed or didn't care.
And now California has S.B. 777.
Indoctrination and power. They are taught this sort of stuff, including assignments that make them active participants in creating these types of lesson plans, as part of their education. They go into a school where few have the courage to speak up even if they disagree with this sort of thing, and by degrees they just lose touch with the reality of it. People tend to base their reaction not on what is done to them, but on what is done to them in relation to what has been done to them in the past. A child that has never been spanked will react very differently than a child that has been spanked before. Same with adults. They get indoctrinated and silenced, made complicit, and then maybe even become active participants or instigators. Hideous. It's not only the kids that get hurt by this machine, it's the teachers also.
Knowledge is neither good nor bad; however, there are things that are simply inappropriate for young children. As far as "censorship" goes, you (like most liberals/libertarians) seem to have no idea what it even means.
Why wait? What he said is plenty justification. Sick filthy beast.
Gilbo and Othniel,
Moving is not the answer, Gilbo.
ALL government schools are Anti-Christian, even those in “Podunk”, U.S.A. Please read what Dr. Bruce Shortt presented to the Southern Baptist Convention.
Another point, is that if Christian teachers are members of the NEA, they are ( with their money) supporting and promoting an overly Anti-Christian agenda.
I respectfully suggest that it is time for Christian teachers to leave the government schools and to focus their time, talents, and energy on building up an alternative Christian system. The chances of saving the souls of their own congregation’s Christian children are greater. The chances of attracting non-member families and their children to the fold are greater.
Wintertime
All Public Schools, By Law, Are Anti-Christian
First, it is important to distinguish between individuals and institutions. There is still a sizable remnant of Christian adults employed by the public schools. Many of them pray for their students and a few, though they risk being disciplined or fired, furtively try to witness. But this certainly does not mean that institutionally any public school system is, as some try to argue, sympathetic to Christianity. In fact, expressing nontrivial institutional sympathy for Christianity, let alone teaching from a Christian worldview, is absolutely prohibited by a complex web of court rulings, legislation, and regulations that apply to every single school and every single school employee subject to the laws of the United States. This is the hostile institutional environment in which Christian adults in the schools are forced to work. And, unfortunately, when you put good people in a bad system, the system almost always wins, which is the reason the public school system continues to deteriorate.
Sympathy, or the lack of sympathy, however, is simply not the relevant standard for judging whether a school is a suitable place to train up a Christian child. Christ tells us clearly that He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters abroad. For forty years and more, every public school has been legally prohibited from being for Christ. Unless one chooses to disregard Christs teaching, the only conclusion that can honestly be reached is that the entire public school system, by law, is against Christ. As will be seen, this is further confirmed when we look at the evidence of whether the public schools are gathering with Christ or scattering.
There Is No Neutrality in Education
Often Christians attempt to argue it doesnt matter that the public school system is not for Christ that education is somehow religiously neutral. Education, however, is never neutral.
Any Christian who believes that government schools operate on religiously neutral principles is simply deceived. There is no such thing as metaphysical or religious neutrality. If an institution rejects the Bibles teaching about the nature of God, Man and the universe, then it necessarily accepts, implicitly or explicitly, some other worldview, whether it be the materialist metaphysics of secular humanism, the cosmic humanism of the New Age religions, or something else. Government schools are no exception.
On a practical level, the net result of nearly sixty years of Supreme Court rulings on the meaning of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to the Constitution has not been to create a level playing field for different beliefs, but simply to take all vestiges of Christianity out of government schools. Today, secular humanism, postmodernism, New Age mysticism, and other forms of paganism pervade government schools at all levels. The teachers unions, such as the NEA, are openly hostile to Biblical Christianity and its values, and the curricula of schools of education and teachers colleges, from which the overwhelming majority of teachers are drawn, are suffused with a mélange of postmodern and other nonchristian worldviews. Not surprisingly, textbook publishers accommodate the education establishments worldview by providing textbooks that conform to the prevailing anti-Christian perspective of the education establishment.
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Othniel,
Going to college does not explain the loss of faith of those schooled in government schools. If going to college were an explanation we would see similar stats for homeschoolers, but we don’t.
The following is from Dr. Bruce Shortt’s report to the Southern Baptist Convention:
“Research by Dr. Brian Ray, founder of NHERI, found that 94% of all homeschooled children retained their faith into adulthood.”
“In 2002 the SBCs Council on Family Life reported that roughly 88% of our children leave the church within 2 years after graduating from high school. It is reported by LifeWays Zan Tyler that Josh McDowell Ministries pegs the number who leave at 92%.3”
Ask Mark Steyn.
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