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To: fortheDeclaration
The subject is paleoPaulie the surrendermonkey who says he will get out of Iraq immediately. Like the leftists (Pelosi, Reid, et al.) you are apparently heavily invested in losing this war. It can be lost by the election of paleopeacecreeps or the leftist variety. We have many good reasons to believe that it will be victory and that is why Al Zawahiri is threatening to behead Islamic militia leaders who have come over to our side and those who will do so. The momentum has shifted and you missed that.

The pacifist wonderbabies fear nothing so much as they fear victory since that will encourage future necessary wars. Too bad. Left or pseudoright, they MUST have a defeat for the US. Meanwhile, the paleos pose for "constitutionalist" holy pictures bleating about "declarations of war" and paleoPaulie actually makes a fool of himself and his followers by hallucinating about letters of marque and reprisal. Avast, Matey! Get your blunderbuss! We are heading for Fallujah!!!

Bush can do more. NO ONE would do less than the paleopeacecreep.

Most of the peacecreeps were rejoicing over the "intelligence" that Iran stopped its nuclear weapons program in 2003 until they realized that (coincidentally, no doubt) we attacked Iraq in 2003 and Qaddaffi went bely up on HIS nuke program just about immediately. That all means that we had instant credibility by going to war for a change. War against Iraq was a threat to Iran and Libya too. AND Dubya was not addicted to diployak like his daddy. If Bush eventually pulls out of Iraq (which I doubt), it will be on OUR terms as we see fit not in the manner of fleeing in terror favored by paleocowards, John Murtha, Pelosi, Kerry, et al.

We have not been attacked in the US since 9/11 and not because OBL chooses not to hit us here. Rather, he is all too busy defending over there as it should be. Some of us believe that, if someone's civilian families are going to be killed, it is best that it not be our families and best that it not be in our land. May not satisfy the spineless Kumbaya crowd. Too bad.

The WOT will continue. If you really insist, we can, as a nation, chicken out, get whacked again here and then the paleogutless crowd and the organized left will fully assume the reputation of their collective object of worship: Neville Chamberlain.

Lavender Justin(e) Raimondo (and his antiwar.com) may be your foreign minister. He is not mine. Paleos will do NOTHING about Iran, NOTHING about Iraq, NOTHING about Afghanistan, nothing about terrorism. They will seek to hold hands with the terrorist, sell them whatever they want, sing Kumbaya and expect the lions to lie down with the lambs. A simpler solution is to leave the bad guys' remains flat, black and glowing in the dark. If the UN does not like that, we will see whether the paleos side with the US or with the UN and who the genuine nationalists are and who the globaloney artists are.

PaleoPaulie won't do squat because the American people, whatever their faults, would not be caught dead (and many would be dead soon enough) voting for the feckless wimp paleoPaulie for POTUS. His GOP constituents may well choose Peden to restore TX-14 to America. UpChuck Hegel got the message and he is going home. Weepy Walter Jones (paleobimbo-NC) deserves a well-financed primary opponent in North Carolina. Then there might be one or two others left but hopefully not.

714 posted on 12/18/2007 4:47:56 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemaen's Club)
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To: BlackElk
The subject is paleoPaulie the surrendermonkey who says he will get out of Iraq immediately.

And he always qualifies that with taking into consideration the recomendations of the military leadership and the safetly of our troops.

What Ron Paul doesn't want to do is remain in Iraq for 50 years like we have in Korea and in Europe!

Like the leftists (Pelosi, Reid, et al.) you are apparently heavily invested in losing this war. It can be lost by the election of paleopeacecreeps or the leftist variety. We have many good reasons to believe that it will be victory and that is why Al Zawahiri is threatening to behead Islamic militia leaders who have come over to our side and those who will do so. The momentum has shifted and you missed that.

Well, from what evidence I have seen we have won the war by essentially destroying Al Quada and thus, that is why Bush has started withdrawing U.S. combat troops and plans to withdraw more in Sept.

So, it would seem that you are not willing to accept victory and get out.

The pacifist wonderbabies fear nothing so much as they fear victory since that will encourage future necessary wars. Too bad. Left or pseudoright, they MUST have a defeat for the US. Meanwhile, the paleos pose for "constitutionalist" holy pictures bleating about "declarations of war" and paleoPaulie actually makes a fool of himself and his followers by hallucinating about letters of marque and reprisal. Avast, Matey! Get your blunderbuss! We are heading for Fallujah!!!

Actually, we have won in Iraq, so we are going to leave, get used to it.

Bush can do more. NO ONE would do less than the paleopeacecreep.

Bush, as President should be doing more, so your criticism should be directed at him for his weakness on the WOT, not the Paleos who are not in power.

And why hasn't Bush done more against the terrorists and actually waged the war that he claimed he was going to wage in 2001?

Because the Neocons do not want to upset anyone, so they would rather U.S. troops be used to create their NWO under the guise of fighting terrorism then actually to destroy it by crushing Iran.

Most of the peacecreeps were rejoicing over the "intelligence" that Iran stopped its nuclear weapons program in 2003 until they realized that (coincidentally, no doubt) we attacked Iraq in 2003 and Qaddaffi went bely up on HIS nuke program just about immediately. That all means that we had instant credibility by going to war for a change. War against Iraq was a threat to Iran and Libya too. AND Dubya was not addicted to diployak like his daddy. If Bush eventually pulls out of Iraq (which I doubt), it will be on OUR terms as we see fit not in the manner of fleeing in terror favored by paleocowards, John Murtha, Pelosi, Kerry, et al.

It was Irael that put a halt to the Iraqi nuke program, not the U.S. and we were critical of Israel for doing it.

As for Bush pulling out, he is pulling out, he has already started withdrawing combat troops, although we are planning to keep a large U.S. presence in the nation.

As for the Democrats, not all have been urging immediate withdrawal, Hillary has stated that we need to remain, so you are in good company.

We have not been attacked in the US since 9/11 and not because OBL chooses not to hit us here. Rather, he is all too busy defending over there as it should be. Some of us believe that, if someone's civilian families are going to be killed, it is best that it not be our families and best that it not be in our land. May not satisfy the spineless Kumbaya crowd. Too bad.

I have no problem with that, but if you are going to wage war on Islamic terrorism, wage war on it, don't play political games, hitting one nation but ignoring another, like Iran.

The WOT will continue. If you really insist, we can, as a nation, chicken out, get whacked again here and then the paleogutless crowd and the organized left will fully assume the reputation of their collective object of worship: Neville Chamberlain.

The WOT is a farce and is not being waged seriously.

What is now being done is simply nation building under the guise of the WOT.

So, it is the Neocons, who are in power, who are not fighting the WOT and yet you ignore their lies and undermining of U.S. sovereignty.

Are the U.S. borders protected?

Have we gotten a control on U.S. immigration, whose failure led to the terrorists of 9/11 being allowed to wander around the nation unhindered?

But Ron Paul is the bogyman!

Don't criticize those who are actually responsible for the failures of 9/11, don't criticize the Clinton Administration for not taking strong action against the terrorists when we were being attacked throughout the 90's.

Don't criticize the GOP for not making national security a major issue when they controlled Congress.

No, the leadership of both parties failed in doing their duty in protecting U.S. citizens, but it is Ron Paul who is the evil one!

Lavender Justin(e) Raimondo (and his antiwar.com) may be your foreign minister. He is not mine. Paleos will do NOTHING about Iran, NOTHING about Iraq, NOTHING about Afghanistan, nothing about terrorism. They will seek to hold hands with the terrorist, sell them whatever they want, sing Kumbaya and expect the lions to lie down with the lambs. A simpler solution is to leave the bad guys' remains flat, black and glowing in the dark. If the UN does not like that, we will see whether the paleos side with the US or with the UN and who the genuine nationalists are and who the globaloney artists are.

Ron Paul states that we ought to have a Declaration of war.

But that would mean defining victory and having a commitment to win for U.S. goal which the Neocons will not accept, it runs contrary to their global worldview.

Thus, the American military is be used not for the defense of America, but to spread democracy throughout the world.

PaleoPaulie won't do squat because the American people, whatever their faults, would not be caught dead (and many would be dead soon enough) voting for the feckless wimp paleoPaulie for POTUS. His GOP constituents may well choose Peden to restore TX-14 to America. UpChuck Hegel got the message and he is going home. Weepy Walter Jones (paleobimbo-NC) deserves a well-financed primary opponent in North Carolina. Then there might be one or two others left but hopefully not.

What is really 'wimpish' is passing on a unresolved war to an incoming President.

Bush had almost two terms to bring this WOT to a conclusion, but chose not to, dragging his feet because his goal was not the defeat of terrorism but the advancement of the Neocon worldview.

Only two other times in U.S. history has a President left office with combat troops still in the field, Korea and Vietnam, and never a Republican.

And since the Neocons control U.S. foreign policy we can expect more of the same from the next President, Democrat or Republican.

806 posted on 12/19/2007 12:37:26 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Neocons-the intellectual blood brothers of the Left-Yaron Brook)
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