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To: fortheDeclaration
"Oh, you don't think five years is too long?"

I see that you keep flappin your gums about things you havn't got a clue about.

"No, they are not being protected from Iranian attacks since Iran isn't being hit for them."

We can't go after them without a DECLARATION OF WAR remember?

Besides YOUR little cut and run coward has already said that Iran isn't a threat.

"As for U.S. troops in field, Ron Paul has voted to keep them supplied so stop your lying."

The hell he has.

He has voted against every defense budget there's been since 1997.

He has voted against the FY98 defense bill

Voted against the FY99 defense bill to include the military construction bill.

Voted against the FY00 defense bill to include the military construction bill.

Voted against the FY00 Veteran's Affairs appropriations bill.

Voted against the FY01 defense bill

Voted against the 01 supplemental bill that included $5.6 billion for Defense Department, to be used for military health care, military readiness, and the Pentagon's rising energy costs

And

$92 million for Coast Guard expenses

Voted against the FY02 defense bill

Did not vote for the FY02 military construction bill

Voted against the FY02 Veteran's Affairs appropriations bill.

Voted against the FY03 defense bill.

Voted against the FY04 defense bill

Voted against the FY04 military construction bill

Voted against the FY05 defense bill

Voted against the FY06 defense bill

Voted against the FY07 defense bill

Did not vote for the FY08 defense bill.

The ONLY military bill he voted for was the FY07 military construction bill.

So he's 1 for 18, and that's HARDLY voting to keep the military "supplied".

And that's not even all of the DOD supplemental bills that provided emergency funding for body armor and armored vehicles and such since he voted AGAINST those too.

"Iran isn't a threat to the United States, they are a regional threat and can be handled by those other nations in that region."

First you whine that they're a threat and complain that we're not moving fast enough to deal with them, now you say that they're not a threat.

So which is it?

"If they are such a great threat, why haven't they been hit?"

You're the one bitching about it, not me.

And it's YOUR cut and run heerow that says that Iran ISN'T a threat, not me.

"Not if they were in the US, they wouldn't be."

Uh HELLLLOOO......Earth to Captain Oblivious....

The terrorists can hit us here on our shores as they did in 1993 and again in 2001.

"The only one expressing 'blind hatred' is you as shown by the language and tone you use."

Pot, Kettle, Black Mr. Neocon this, and neocon that. Zealot this and zealot that.

"But that is common to all of you anti-Ron Paul zealots."

And cluelessness is common among you paul supporters.

"Well, he is only one Congressman and only Congress does have the right to officially declare war, it is in the Constitution."

Then go bleat at him about the need to deal with Iran.

"More empty rhetoric."

As opposed to the propaganda you spew?

"Well, that is what Ronald Reagan said about him!"

Ronald Reagan said a lot of things about a lot of people, and I can assure you that if Ronald Reagan were to hear the lunacy spewing out of that cut and run coward's mouth that he'd change his opinion of him.

"So, I guess when Reagan took off after Beirut, he was just a 'cut and runner' also."

What Reagan did was a mistake.

"Last I checked, fighting for American interests and not that of the UN were American values."

Nice spin, but once again that coward YOU support doesn't want to fight.

Even if we're attacked, he'd rather treat it as a law enforcement matter.

"Well, that is who is directing the US foreign policy of Globalism."

So says alex jones and lew rockwell.

"The point was that they were charged with 'war crimes' so just because they fell under the auspices of the USMJ, they were still regarded as war crimes."

Gee I dunno how you are not making yourself dizzy with all the spinning you do.

It happened in a war zone. While at war we abide by the Geneva Conventions. Geneva Conventions are quite explicit when it comes to armed combatants harming civilians.

Those troops were tried under the UCMJ in front of a U.S. military court. They were not turned over to the Hague or the ICC or whatever.

"That was just to give you the definition of what a war crime is."

Well thank you Mr. Obvious, but I know what a war crime is.

But it's very telling of what your views are in that you cite an America hating conspiracy website that supports your pet village idiot as a source.

"Considering that you wanted our troops to be under the rules of the Geneva Convention,'

I can't believe that you're this stupid!

OUR TROOPS ARE UNDER THE GENEVA CONVENTIONS BECAUSE WE SIGNED THEM!

"they would be vulnerable to all kinds of false accusations, as we have seen in the recent trials."

If they're falsely accused, the Article 32 investigation will exonerate them as we have seen in recent trials.

1,021 posted on 12/24/2007 6:05:55 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (ron paul has lied to YOU)
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To: 2CAVTrooper
OUR TROOPS ARE UNDER THE GENEVA CONVENTIONS BECAUSE WE SIGNED THEM!

Not when our troops deal with terrorists, who are not under the protections of the Geneva Convention, since they are criminals not legal combatants.

1,024 posted on 12/25/2007 4:18:46 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (The power under the Constitution will always be in the people- George Washington)
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To: 2CAVTrooper

We should understand that veterans programs, unlike so many federal programs, are constitutional. The Constitution specifically provides for Congress to fund armed forces and provide national defense. Congress and the nation accordingly have a constitutional obligation to keep the promises made to those who provide that defense. This is why I support increased funding for veterans, while opposing the bloated spending bills that fund corporate and social welfare, pork favoritism, and special interests at the expense of those veterans.

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/articles/233/honor-veterans-with-a-better-budget/


1,025 posted on 12/25/2007 4:28:20 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (The power under the Constitution will always be in the people- George Washington)
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To: 2CAVTrooper
["Oh, you don't think five years is too long?"]

I see that you keep flappin your gums about things you havn't got a clue about.

Really?

A recent article in the Washingtion Times stated that the Defense dept is going to speed up troop withdrawal due to the stress that it is placing on the Army.

[ "No, they are not being protected from Iranian attacks since Iran isn't being hit for them."]

We can't go after them without a DECLARATION OF WAR remember?

Well, don't you think being responsible for the killing of U.S. troops is grounds for a declaration of war?

Besides YOUR little cut and run coward has already said that Iran isn't a threat.

It isn't a direct threat to the United States, but it is a threat as long as we have troops in Iraq.

So, either get our troops out of Iraq or protect them from Iranian attacks.

But all you want to do is complain how 'weak' Ron Paul is on Defense.

1,027 posted on 12/25/2007 5:01:58 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (The power under the Constitution will always be in the people- George Washington)
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