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To: BGHater
It was no accident that the document Mr Brown signed yesterday was originally called a "Constitution", because it does mark a further very significant step towards what was always intended to be the ultimate goal of that process - the emergence of the EU as a fully-fledged government in its own right, as a direct counterpart, for instance, to the United States of America.

These guys just don't get it. The US Constitution was written by American Patriots from all the states. It was agreed to by elected representatives and ratified by the states, with due process.

This "constitution," a 200 page document that no one can understand, was written up by a bunch of French cheeses, several times rejected by the people, including the French, and then signed by a bunch of elitists without any popular mandate or parliamentary ratification.

The only word for it is bogus. It's goodbye to representative government for the people of Europe. They don't even have an Emperor whom they can hold responsible for errors, and who might have a conscience and a sense of Christian duty. Instead, they have a gang of faceless, unelected bureaucrats, who cannot be voted out and are not answerable to anyone.

The United States of Europe this is NOT.

10 posted on 12/16/2007 11:40:59 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero
Well said!


13 posted on 12/16/2007 11:56:49 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Cicero
'This "constitution," a 200 page document that no one can understand, was written up by a bunch of French cheeses, several times rejected by the people, including the French, and then signed by a bunch of elitists without any popular mandate or parliamentary ratification"

More like 600 pages......that's some heavy tome he is signing into.

20 posted on 12/16/2007 1:11:55 PM PST by spokeshave (Hey GOP...NO money till border closed and criminal illegals deported)
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To: Cicero
These guys just don't get it. The US Constitution was written by American Patriots from all the states. It was agreed to by elected representatives and ratified by the states, with due process. This "constitution," a 200 page document that no one can understand, was written up by a bunch of French cheeses, several times rejected by the people, including the French, and then signed by a bunch of elitists without any popular mandate or parliamentary ratification. The only word for it is bogus. It's goodbye to representative government for the people of Europe. They don't even have an Emperor whom they can hold responsible for errors, and who might have a conscience and a sense of Christian duty. Instead, they have a gang of faceless, unelected bureaucrats, who cannot be voted out and are not answerable to anyone. The United States of Europe this is NOT.

Then there is not much difference to the American constitution. This new treaty was written by Europeans from all current nations. Then it was signed by elected heads of states that acted as representatives of their voters.

The problem might be that we Europeans copied too much from America. I.e. the representative democracy, which is for sure not the best system after all. There are far better alternatives like the Swiss direct democracy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland#Direct_democracy

I know. The truth is hurting sometimes.

35 posted on 12/22/2007 1:41:19 AM PST by Atlantic Bridge (Avoid boring people!)
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