Friends `cheated' out of teen's funeral (Aqsa Parvez, Mississauga, On.)

The Toronto Star ^ | Dec 16, 2007 | Andrew Chung

[fanfan]

It’s a start.

[ridesthemiles]

Another male member of the Muslim family practicing the “Religion of Peace”.......

[Mad Dawg]

Oh yeahy, roger that and so forth. What are the Islamic leaders in, say, Indonesia doing, though? Don't get me wrong, there seems to be an organic relations between Islam and brutality in many Islamic cultures. I'm just drawing for as long as I can stomach it the distinction between culture and religion.

You think it's hard being cynical in this age? Try being all circumspect and diplomatic and patient and stuff! I'm about to blow a gut or something here ....

[an amused spectator]

In the end though, the level of violence and public discourse of it all does not make it the responsibility of the surviving family to meet the wishes of everyone else, nor is it a religion’s responsibility for the illegal actions of a violent father.

Yessir, the rest of the surviving family was right on that job of making sure that her father and brother didn't off her. Or not.

I'm sure that they showed her all kinds of respect when they secretly planted her - the usual donations of bodily moisture reserved for those who get their respected father arrested. How DARE she!

Small wonder they didn't want her true friends around...

[slowhandluke]

I'm just drawing for as long as I can stomach it the distinction between culture and religion.

That's going to be an uphill battle, as the religion of Islam doesn't draw that distinction, any more than it draws a distinction between religion and government.

[an amused spectator]

That being said, no matter the circumstances or the public’s feelings about the girl’s death or her family, the private ceremony is the family’s right no matter what.

**Chuckle** Looks like you got yourself in a small firefight on this thread. I've reviewed some of your other posts on this matter, and like the way you don't back down.

Though it pains me to say it, your view is the correct one:
"the private ceremony is the family’s right no matter what"

We can think what we like about it, but that doesn't change it.

BTW - thanks for your service. :-)

[Bookwoman]

Muslims always get a pass until it is too late.

[A_Proud_Christian]

No, this is absolutely not what Islam teaches about how a woman should be treated. Islam condemns violence, be it of any kind or on anyone, like all other religions do. I am a Proud Christian and i have many muslim friends and trust me people they strongly oppose such kind of behaviour. Neither Christianity nor Islam teaches about violence but still we always get to hear about so many horrific stories from time to time. It’s not the religions that are to be blamed for such horrible crimes. It’s solely the individuals who lack religious and moral knowledge that they indulge themselves in such horrible crimes. Their actions are not guided by the religious teachings because, even though i don’t have enough knowledge about other religions other than Christianity and Islam, i can surely say that no religion on this earth teaches about violence and brutal killing or even harming any other living thing even to a slightest bit. It is the people who are so ignorant that they foolishly commit such crimes.
What happened to this poor girl is very sad, very tragic. But it is solely the father who should be blamed for his actions not his religion. Some people become extremists and they commit such stupid crimes on the name of honor and religion. I mean this is really stupid! What he has done is inarguably wrong and unacceptable. He should be strictly punished for his act. But we, as Christians, should try not to pass hateful remarks on any other religion because this is not what our religion teaches us. Christianity is the religion of peace and love for the whole mankind. I mean let’s not be so judgemental guys! Good and bad people are everywhere, in every religion, in every part of the world. We should just stand by the truth and oppose the wrong. We are Christians! We must preach peace, love and kindness for the whole mankind and not hatred! May God have mercy upon all of us! Amen.

[fanfan]

Sure, sure.......

“Men take authority over women... As for those who are disobedient, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them.” (Surah 4:34)

“Bad hijabi is equal to prostitution, Lack of hijab means lack of man’s manhood.”
Poster’s in Tehran

“If a man and a woman are alone in one place, the third person present is the devil.”
Prophet Mohammed

“A Woman’s Heaven is under the Feet of Her Husband.”
Islamic Proverb

“Even if kneeling to god was not obligatory, wives should have knelt before their husband.”
Ayatollah Mohammad Yazdi

“Women do not have the patience to follow all the complex arguments that are placed before the courts. I know I have been there and seen judges at work, it simply is not a task for women.”
Ayatollah Mohammad Yazdi

“Women are not given the right to instigate divorce because they are prone to emotional and irrational decision making. A husband, however, can divorce his wife at any time he so wishes.”
Ayatollah Ali Moghtadai

“A man loves his son, then his camel, and then his wife.”
Arab Proverb

“Men, beat your women.”
Koran 4:34

[AppyPappy]

But it is solely the father who should be blamed for his actions not his religion.

So it is just another mere coincidence?

[A_Proud_Christian]

fanfan i think this website can answer all of your questions related to Islam.

http://www.irf.net/irf/faqonislam/index.htm

[fanfan]

I don’t have questions.

My last post to you was full of answers, not questions.