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Colorado Heroine May Have Been Legally Prevented from Using Beretta as Security Guard
Vanity | 16 December, 2007 | Marktwain

Posted on 12/16/2007 10:43:41 AM PST by marktwain

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To: Tijeras_Slim

See paost # 80 (I should learn to preview!)


81 posted on 12/16/2007 1:53:20 PM PST by Hazcat (We won an immigration BATTLE, the WAR is not over. Be ever vigilant.)
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To: Hazcat

I figured, but I’d lose my FReeper license if I let something like that pass on a gun thread without comment.

I’m partial to my 3.5” Smith 27.


82 posted on 12/16/2007 1:56:05 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Myrddin

By “performance” I was not referring to accuracy. I was referring to muzzle energy. Stopping power.


83 posted on 12/16/2007 1:56:12 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: P8riot; All
One round from my .475 Linebaugh (400gr @ 1400FPS) would have done the same thing. If it can stop an Alaskan Brown, it can stop a deranged twit.

She used a weapon she could hit with, to good effect.

Hits with a 9 are better than misses with an elephant gun.

And even if you have a BIG, BIG gun with BIG, BIG bullets, you still need BIG, BIG stones to close the range on a shooter while taking fire and still put him down.

Congratulations to the heroine of this affair.

84 posted on 12/16/2007 1:58:47 PM PST by Jim Noble (Trails of trouble, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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To: mamelukesabre
By “performance” I was not referring to accuracy. I was referring to muzzle energy. Stopping power.

As in real estate, the 3 most important things are location, location, location. A well placed shot with a .22 beats a poorly placed shot with a .454 Casull. A center of mass shot is the first choice as it presents the largest target. If body armor is encountered, you're left with a head shot or upper leg. The latter is what killed Sean Taylor.

85 posted on 12/16/2007 2:21:37 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: CowboyConservative
Sounds to me like she has no business with any firearm, if it takes 10 shots to stop an individual you need to go back to the range!

Hey Cowboy she could have just been using an old firearms rule "When in doubt, empty the magazine".

If it was a revolver it probably would have been 6 to 8 shots of 357 into him. "Empty the cylinder"

86 posted on 12/16/2007 2:26:01 PM PST by Centurion2000 (False modesty is as great a sin as false pride.)
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To: Jim Noble
you still need BIG, BIG stones to close the range on a shooter while taking fire and still put him down.

or a solid faith in a Big God guiding your movement...

We need an open record push for the autopsy photos, let those be the ones that the press gets for the copycats...

87 posted on 12/16/2007 2:26:23 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (A few Rams must look after the sheep 'til the Good Shepherd returns...)
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To: Myrddin

I’ve read elsewhere that Jeanne’s firearm was a 9mm. And my impression was he shot himself with his handgun. He had three weapons on him.


88 posted on 12/16/2007 2:29:06 PM PST by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: PLMerite
What does the CSR have to say about these:

89 posted on 12/16/2007 2:31:31 PM PST by NCC-1701 (PUT AN END TO ORGANIZED CRIME. ABOLISH THE I.R.S.)
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To: Hazcat

I was thinkin’ 12 fps was a little slow...


90 posted on 12/16/2007 2:34:23 PM PST by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: Myrddin

Tell me more about this upper leg shot.


91 posted on 12/16/2007 2:35:53 PM PST by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: Jim Noble
And even if you have a BIG, BIG gun with BIG, BIG bullets, you still need BIG, BIG stones to close the range on a shooter while taking fire and still put him down.

And here we have the essence of who she is.

She is somebody who did not hesitate to engage the bad guy, even though he had a long arm and she just had a pistol.

92 posted on 12/16/2007 2:35:59 PM PST by PapaBear3625
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To: claudiustg
"Sven rounds from a S&W..."

Ole shoots a S&W; I thought Sven shot a Ruger.

93 posted on 12/16/2007 2:37:43 PM PST by diogenes ghost
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To: oldenuff2no
"What morons!!!!"

Yup....

Morons that don't read, or don't understand, the article/post.

94 posted on 12/16/2007 2:40:21 PM PST by diogenes ghost
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To: Jim Noble

Most definitely. My response was in the context of dispelling the rumor that revolvers were somehow inferior.


95 posted on 12/16/2007 2:41:58 PM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Myrddin

While the caliber of the firearm is relevant, and in some cases it is even decisive, the main point is that this was combat.

In combat you have the weapon, but far more important is the caliber of the person who is engaged in combat. Combat, once begun, is usually to the death (or something approximating death).

She was fearless, and was obviously willing to fight to the death.

Her caliber as a warrior was what made the difference. The handgun caliber was secondary. She broke the evil one’s will and kept going as long as it took. Totally heroic.


96 posted on 12/16/2007 2:46:04 PM PST by 2ndClassCitizen
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To: XeniaSt

-—I sure would not want to fire a compensated pistol in dim light.
You would be blinded by the flash.-—

That’s actually not true.


97 posted on 12/16/2007 2:48:30 PM PST by claudiustg (You know it. I know it.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
I Love my 2 1/8" S&W 640 a wrist breaker, I am old.
98 posted on 12/16/2007 2:50:15 PM PST by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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To: Larry Lucido

-—Does Sven have to be holding the revolver?-—

Just don’t let get anywhere near any panacakes!


99 posted on 12/16/2007 2:51:20 PM PST by claudiustg (You know it. I know it.)
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To: claudiustg
That’s actually not true.

Try it at night

100 posted on 12/16/2007 2:51:37 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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