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Romney Meets Russert (Romney utterly Clintonian)
Spectator Blog ^ | 12/16/2007 | Philip Klien

Posted on 12/16/2007 10:33:14 AM PST by JRochelle

I just got finished watching Mitt Romney's performance on "Meet the Press."

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--On guns, he may have gotten himself in trouble, in an attempt to diffuse the flip-flop label, by standing by his support for the Brady Bill and the 1994 assault weapons ban. He even said he would have signed an extension of the assault weapons ban when it expired in 2004. He also employed the odd phrase "weapons of unusual lethality" to describe the type of guns he would ban.

--On immigration, Romney was utterly Clintonian. He said that when in November 2005 he described the Bush/McCain approach to immigration as "reasonable" and "quite different" from amnesty, he wasn't endorsing the proposal, but just describing it. He hadn't formulated his own position on immigration at the time. That's right up there with Hillary Clinton saying in the debate that she didn't say she supported driver's licenses for illegal immigrants, but she just said that a proposal to do so "makes sense." Even if we were to get into the Christmas spirit and be extraordinarily generous by granting Romney that an elected official saying pending legislation is "reasonable" doesn't constitute support for the legislation, it still doesn't get him off the hook. His description of the proposal was that it was "quite different" from amnesty, and yet during this year he has ceaselessly leveled attacks on McCain by accusing him of supporting "amnesty."

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--On health care, I thought it was noteworthy that Romney hopes other states will follow the Massachusetts model so that insurance will be mandated nationwide (even if it isn't by the federal government). So philosophically, he still holds out hope that every American will be forced to purchase health insurance, but he just thinks that personal liberty should be violated on a state-by-state basis.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: duediligence; mtp; notwhattheysaybutdo; phony; romney; russert; sourgrapes; truthinadvertising
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To: JRochelle
Yes there is. Only Huckabee and Rudy are worse than Mitt.

How, exactly, can you tell?

101 posted on 12/16/2007 1:25:06 PM PST by unspun (God save us from egos -- especially our own.)
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To: JRochelle
First of all...when Mitt gave his "religious" speech, he spoke at the elder Bush's Library.

That kind of tells me that the Bush family is probably behind Mitt.

And, I'm not confident that his stance on immigration is any different than the guy in the WH right now.

His answers are just too cutesy for comfort for my taste.

102 posted on 12/16/2007 1:33:44 PM PST by moondoggie
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To: unspun

Golly gee, just by their records.


103 posted on 12/16/2007 1:39:27 PM PST by JRochelle (Mitt Romney: "He (Huckabee) would make a fine President!")
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To: greyfoxx39

I have to go to family dinner tonight up in Liberty near Huntsville in the Ogden Valley, home of Fawn McKay Brodie.

http://www.media.utah.edu/UHE/b/BRODIE,FAWN.html

I’m sure her spirits will linger there as we partake of overdone meat and (funeral) potatoes.


104 posted on 12/16/2007 1:40:54 PM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah Conservatives for Fred!)
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To: Bobbisox

FYI, I’m not a Romney supporter.


105 posted on 12/16/2007 1:43:51 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Utah Binger
I’m sure her spirits will linger there as we partake of overdone meat and (funeral) potatoes.

Luckily, my mormon ancestors were great cooks and passed down some really good "home cooking German style" recipes, even though most of them were Danish.

Of course, the downside is, we are on the pudgy side ;)

106 posted on 12/16/2007 1:44:14 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (We need a man with a STEEL SPINE in the White House(FRED), not a pandering flip-flopper!)
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To: JRochelle

Hopefully, this will finish him off.


107 posted on 12/16/2007 1:46:35 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: TruthFactor
He boasts that fourth and eighth graders in Massachusetts achieved the highest scores in the nation in reading and math

And in Massachusetts, third-graders learn about "fisting"!
Mitt must be very proud.

108 posted on 12/16/2007 1:50:02 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: JRochelle

Romney truly is a pathological liar, I am watching the tape and he just said to the people of America that he “thinks” that it is illegal for a parent to ask for ID of men that come to their home.

That is ridiculous on it’s face, I can ask anyone that wants to work at my house to show me their ID.

After all these years and all his campaigning as an immigration expert, and all his legal training, and his being the source of more than a years worth of national stories of his using illegals, he feigns ignorance on something so basic so that he can spread a lie.


109 posted on 12/16/2007 1:52:46 PM PST by ansel12
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To: Petronski
Romney forced private Catholic hospitals to provide the morning-after-pill, a position applauded by Democrats and pro-abortions groups.

I wonder if he would have forced the same on LDS hospitals?

110 posted on 12/16/2007 1:53:32 PM PST by GLDNGUN
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To: greyfoxx39

http://copenhagen-plaza.hotel-rez.com/Copenhagen_Plaza_Photo_album_en.html

Four nights in this place beginning Saturday night will certainly take care of any weight problems. LOL


111 posted on 12/16/2007 1:54:39 PM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah Conservatives for Fred!)
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To: Utah Binger; colorcountry

Wow, that is really beautiful, (she says as she turns green with envy!) Too bad you aren’t a plig....I’d enlist.


112 posted on 12/16/2007 1:57:42 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (We need a man with a STEEL SPINE in the White House(FRED), not a pandering flip-flopper!)
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To: GLDNGUN
I wonder if he would have forced the same on LDS hospitals? Good question.
113 posted on 12/16/2007 1:59:39 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (We need a man with a STEEL SPINE in the White House(FRED), not a pandering flip-flopper!)
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To: All

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Perhaps life is good in the ‘campaign’ of the Mittster, but it definitely is not for all those alive unborn children Mitt assisted in allowing the slaughter of with taxpayer funding in Massachusetts. What a guy, what a pro-life (Mitt’s life) guy. Those alive unborn must have been ‘leftovers’ or ‘extras’ like he stamped the alive embryos in IVF clinics not implanted in human uteruses. We just haven’t learned how to have Mormon-think, er, Mitt-think, have we Reaganesque.
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Assuming I have any idea what this convolution means, let’s extend it to a TRUE MEASURE of conservative thought.

Why, precisely now, not generally, why are the stalwart pro Life chest thumping conservative candidates for President not out firebombing abortion clinics at night when there is no danger of killing anyone? Why aren’t they on the sidewalks blocking entrance and getting arrested? And why aren’t you insisting that whoever your favorite ultra pro Life candidates are do this? Why do you acquiesce in the murder?

Let’s toss out the answers. It’s against the law. So what? What sort of TRUE PASSION is stopped by an immoral law? How can you possibly support a candidate who isn’t even willing to go to jail for his commitment to principle and passion?

Need maneuvering room? Sure, here is some. Because as president maybe he can do far more for the unborn than he can as a passionate firebrand blocking a sidewalk.

Now, after that is assimilated, let’s consider the two scenarios. One person won’t compromise his principles. He sits on that sidewalk and he blocks entrance. The other rationalizes his own abject failure to do so by claiming that he does not do so because being in jail is not an attribute the electorate finds attractive. Convenient rationale, that, and it lets the manufacturer of it sleep in comfortable hotel rooms rather than jail cells.

The point of all this is what? It is to show you the politics has a spectrum. it is not absolute. YOU have failed to refuse support to a candidate who does not make some personal sacrifices for the unborn. YOUR candidate has a squishy position on abortion. It is rightward of many other positions. It is leftward of some.


114 posted on 12/16/2007 2:00:44 PM PST by Owen
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To: Reaganesque
Reaganesque???

Are you kidding me?

You should be ashamed of yourself and your candidate...

"Look, I was an Independent during the time of Reagan/Bush. I am not trying to return to Reagan/Bush." (Mitt Romney, 1994 Senate Debate, Boston, MA, 10/25/94)

"I'm very clear I think, to the people across the Commonwealth - my "R" didn't stand so much for Republican as it does for reform." (Romney Video, accessed 9/19/07)

"I'm not running as the Republican view or a continuation of Republican values.

That's not what brings me to the race." (Romney Video, accessed 9/19/07)

"I wasn't a Ronald Reagan conservative." (Mitt Romney In Interview with Marc Ambinder,

"Romney Explains Himself," National Journal, 2/9/07)

"Hillary Clinton is very much right, it does take a village, and we are a village and we need to work together in a non-skeptical, non-finger-pointing way..." ("For City Problems, Future Solutions," The Boston Globe, 3/1/98)

115 posted on 12/16/2007 2:04:22 PM PST by GLDNGUN
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To: Owen

Is that the recipe for Mitt’s Moral Relativism?

[spit]


116 posted on 12/16/2007 2:06:36 PM PST by Petronski (Reject the liberal superfecta: huckabee, romney, giuliani, mccain)
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To: JRochelle
Golly gee, just by their records.

Nobody's record is up to snuff. At least Romney has publicly repented of most of his stupidity.

117 posted on 12/16/2007 2:06:45 PM PST by unspun (God save us from egos -- especially our own.)
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To: GLDNGUN

Look at his tagline. He fancies himself as part of some kind of resistance movement! On a conservative website, he’s a resistor?

That says quite a lot right there.


118 posted on 12/16/2007 2:08:05 PM PST by Petronski (Reject the liberal superfecta: huckabee, romney, giuliani, mccain)
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To: unspun
At least Romney has publicly repented of most of his stupidity.

So he claims.

119 posted on 12/16/2007 2:09:22 PM PST by Petronski (Reject the liberal superfecta: huckabee, romney, giuliani, mccain)
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To: Owen

“Because as president maybe he can do far more for the unborn than he can as a passionate firebrand blocking a sidewalk.” ... Well, if his enabling the abortion slaughter in Massachusetts is any indication, I’m sure he can do so much more as President! Maroon ...


120 posted on 12/16/2007 2:10:27 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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