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To: kingu
What settlement? Here's your dress code. Students knew of the dress code ahead of time, and purposefully wore clothing out of code to create this problem. That 'crap' should never have involved a lawyer. I'm the least supporter of the 'nanny state' out there, and constantly critical of nonsense efforts - but school dress codes work when enforced.

I take a different tack. The public school system poses an existential threat to our society in the long term. Therefore, actions that slow said school system down are worthwhile. Ideally, we would shutdown these government indoctrination centers. If publicly undercutting the school's authority moves us in that direction, then I've got no problem with it in principle.
46 posted on 12/15/2007 9:01:03 PM PST by JamesP81 ("I am against "zero tolerance" policies. It is a crutch for idiots." --FReeper Tenacious 1)
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To: JamesP81
I take a different tack. The public school system poses an existential threat to our society in the long term. Therefore, actions that slow said school system down are worthwhile. Ideally, we would shutdown these government indoctrination centers. If publicly undercutting the school's authority moves us in that direction, then I've got no problem with it in principle.

I take a different tack from you. IMO, one reason the public schools are in the shape they are in is because of parents undercutting the school's authority at every opportunity, in many cases trying to move it in just the direction you say you deplore.

Parents have bought into the "Dr. Spock" type child-psychology that says any effort to discipline their children probably harms their creativity, individualism, self-esteem, etc., and so they resist all efforts by the schools to enforce discipline, dress codes, and learning standards, preferring instead to file lawsuits if their little darlings aren't allowed to do as they please.

This case is a prime example.

49 posted on 12/16/2007 5:42:02 AM PST by Amelia
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To: JamesP81
we would shutdown these government indoctrination centers. If publicly undercutting the school's authority moves us in that direction, then I've got no problem with it in principle.

It's nice to see someone take the long view, because this is finally what it's about.

The school administrators were delivering the object lesson that a student (or parent) may not question the obviously idiotic. It prepares them for district policies such as: it is fact that humans cause global warming because they are selfish wasteful polluters; it is fact that all white people are racist bigots and it is impossible for any minority to be racist, hateful or the instigator of violence towards whites; it is fact that all rich people stole all they have from poor people who earned it in sweatshops or slavery; it is fact that no human without papers can commit a crime entering the United States, and the property owners are criminals for having what the undocumented's need.

If the students question the idiotic dress code, they just might question the rest of the idiocy.

The ACLU didn't think of that. For us, it's called serendipity.

105 posted on 12/16/2007 5:54:55 PM PST by Navy Patriot (The hyphen American with the loudest whine gets the grease.)
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