[snowsislander]

Nothing has really been agreed to. What constitutes "deep cuts?" Who will pay into the permanent fund and at what level? All the Bali Conference did was kick the knottiest issues down the road.

From the way that I read the Adaptation Fund agreement, I think it is a done deal. Certainly the closing statement seems to say that it is now "firmly" launched. I could be wrong, but I don't believe that anything else in the way of agreement is necessary for it. The document lists all of the elements necessary to put it in place, including funding (points #24 and #28.)

It's true that the actual target emission figures have been moved out of the text of the roadmap, but I believe that our agreement in principle to something as agreed science when it clearly is not agreed science is not wise. Are we later going to retract our agreement?

[goldstategop]

We're only committed to another round of negotiations. Nothing commits us to agreeing to the outcome of the 2009 talks.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[JohnD9207]

the closing statement seems to say that it is now “firmly” launched.

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We need to firmly launch the UN into the Atlantic ocean!