Posted on 12/15/2007 4:34:49 AM PST by MrPiper
The United States initially rejected those demands, but backed down after delegates criticized the U.S. stand and urged a reconsideration.
"I think we have come a long way here," said Paula Dobriansky, head of the U.S. delegation. "In this, the United States is very committed to this effort and just wants to really ensure we all act together. We will go forward and join consensus."
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
Sorry, there’s no one to protest to because they’re all wimps.
The Record of Climate Change in the Recent Past
Paleoclimate data show that the Earthâs climate began to slowly cool at the end of the Eocene Stage, about 40 million years ago. The Eocene was unusually warm, with hippopatamus living in England and alligators living north of the arctic circle. By about 5 million years ago, cooling began to accelerate, leading to the modern Ice Age beginning at about 2 million years ago.
The oxygen isotope record shows climate for the past 1.6 million years fluctuating between relatively cold glacial periods, when ice sheets grow, and warm interglacial periods, when ice sheets shrink. Although only four glaciations are evident from the record of moraines and glacial features preserved in the landscape, the oxygen isotope record shows more than 60 episodes of glacial advance over the last 2 million years.
At first, glacial and interglacial periods appear to have been of equal duration, each lasting about 50,000 years, with only a moderate difference between warm and cold climate states. This changed about 1 million years ago when glacial episodes became fewer and longer (about 100,000 years) with much shorter interglacial warm periods. Also, the contrast between glacial and interglacial periods became more intense, with larger growth of ice sheets followed by more extensive melting during interglacials.
The most recent glacial episode (called the Wisconson Glaciation in North America and the Wurm Glaciation in Europe) began about 115,000 years ago. From a climate very similar to that of today, perhaps slightly warmer, temperatures declined by 21,000 years ago to an average of 12¡F to 18¡F cooler. High latitude temperatures were at least 27¡F cooler and huge ice sheets covered northern North America, western Europe, the British Isles, and ice caps covered most mountain ranges. Albany, New York was buried beneath more than a mile of ice in a sheet that extended south to the center of Long Island. At about 17,000 to 18,000 years ago the Laurentide Ice Sheet reached its maximum southern extent in North America and began depositing the terminal moraines of Long Island.
Although it took tens of thousands of years for the great ice sheets of the Wisconson Glaciation to form, they melted away in only a few thousand years. The retreat of the ice sheet from the center of Long Island northward can be followed in a series of recessional moraines developed throughout New York State and Canada.
A brief warm period, the Allerod, at 11,500 bp was followed by a short glacial readvance, the Younger Dryas, which ended abruptly with rapid warming around 10,00 years bp. By 10,000 years bp the ice had retreated into northern Canada. By 8000 years bp North America was relatively ice free.
For the last 9,000 years of the modern interglacial climate has been relatively stable, with fluctuations in average temperature of less than 6¡ F. There have been four cycles of high to low temperature, with the lows referred to as little ice ages and the highs called little climatic optima. The most recent, the Little Ice Age, lasted from about 1450 to 1850 AD. Prior to The Little Ice Age warm temperatures had allowed the Vikings to colonize Greenland (which actually was green, at least in areas along the coast) and Iceland, growing crops in both places. Following 1200, the cooling climate forced colonies in Greenland to be abandoned and wheat growing in Iceland had to be given up in favor of sheep farming. Similarly, in England growing grain became impossible above 600 ft elevation and severe winters forced the river Thames to freeze more than 2 dozen times (it has not frozen again since 1815). In the Alps, glaciers advanced far down their valleys - as evidenced by moraine deposits and paintings from that period. The high mountains of Ethiopia were blanketed in snow.
The current trend of climate change
If the cycles of the last 10,000 years continue we can expect, on average for a little ice age to occur every 2000-3000 years. If the cycles are symmetrical (meaning you spend half the time going into one and half the time coming out of one) then we should expect global temperatures to climb for 1000 to 1500 years following the middle of the last little ice age. So, global climate should warm slowly at least until the year 2600, although it probably wonât do so steadily and smoothly.
http://people.hofstra.edu/j_b_bennington/33notes/ice_ages.html
So it signifies nothing, except the alarmists couldn’t make it work. Every day is a good day for the people of Earth, as real science advances and buries the notion that man can warm the planet. Think of it, 100 years ago man was using an outdoor crapper and riding horses, now we can control the weather. Cool.
But the US energy bill does nothing but bash auto companies, which you will pay for in the end. Not one drop of oil in the energy bill. A flat little car for you, a 3 tonne limo for the elites. Buy guns and ammo.
Ask the alarmists why don't we just measure the global warming, after all, all your models say it exists right now. The answer is they have, and it doesn't exist as predicted by all the ridiculous models. The drive-by media and UN cheering section will do what the media do, ignore them.
The dog didn't bark, the circus moves on.
It won’t do any good.
At the most you may receive a t.y.b.f.u. form letter in reply.
This entire man caused global warming crap is a scam.
Only fools and idiots believe it.
Not even the peope that espouse it believe it.
If you get the chance to call in a program that has one of them on it, call in and ask the them if they believe that global warming or climate is man made. If they reply by saying yes, it is. You respond by saying “Then the solution to this problem is simple, just get rid of man. Since you believe that it is man caused why don’t you eleminate yourself as one of the problems to demonstrate your dedication?”
Barf alerts are overused. Maybe something is hidden in the fine print but so far all I see is the Bali Conference agreed to put off any specific actions in return for a feelgood final statement of general platitudes. What more did you hope for?
Repeating my post on a prior thread on the same story:
As I read this, all that we agreed to was “Somebody somewhere should do something”. The same sidestep the governor of Texas in “Best Little Whorehouse in Texas” used when he wanted to be vague.
That was the result I expected from this conference as soon as I saw Australia’s new government back away from the promised concrete commitments they were making only two weeks ago. What’s the problem?
Translation: "Rich" countries shold give lots of money to the UN for graft, out right theft, and trips to warm places with hookers.
Hold on to yer wallets... more taxes.
Who guarantees the climate won’t change? AL Gore? Do we get stagnate climate? For how long? Looking at the reverse logic of an unchanging climate shows how idiotic ‘climate change’ theory is.
Excellent find....’actual science’...the data’s always been there for all to see (who want to see). Tho’ I’d have continued the conclusion to conclusion:
“If the cycles of the last 10,000 years continue we can expect, on average for a little ice age to occur every 2000-3000 years. If the cycles are symmetrical (meaning you spend half the time going into one and half the time coming out of one) then we should expect global temperatures to climb for 1000 to 1500 years following the middle of the last little ice age. So, global climate should warm slowly at least until the year 2600, although it probably won’t do so steadily and smoothly. [After the year 2600 a ‘little ice age’ will begin again, lasting for a 1000 to 1500 years, ie til approximately 3600 to 4100AD].”
for those who may struggle with the math! and perhaps even include tidbits like “no humans are expected to die solely due to these temperature changes, tho’ they may be ‘inconvenienced’ due to weather cycles”. or “politicians could be expected to continue to overtax those who fail to educate themselves in these matters”...let your imagination expound on the endless possibilities here!
“Think of it, 100 years ago man was using an outdoor crapper and riding horses, now we can control the weather. Cool.”
Beautiful elitist phrase....your command of the language is commendable, thanks for the translation! That was one of my first reactions to the inane ‘control’ crack in the original article as well. Enjoy the show, hope we can afford it!
” Since you believe that it is man caused why don’t you eleminate yourself as one of the problems to demonstrate your dedication?”
needs repeating, again and again and again...
It is more fun to pretend man is really in control. Everything is in God's hands.
Fine...as the first step, all these hypocrite bureaucrats should not be allowed to board their private jets for the ride home. They should all go home by ship or horseback...thus rolling back their “carbon footprint” to the 19th century. Why should we cut back on our life style while the nanny statists never have to alter theirs?
That would expose them for the liars they are in a hurry.
~~AGW ™ ping~~
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