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To: melstew
Do you seriously think a status quo where Americans and Canadians emit 10x the per capita GHGs of the Chinese is fair? I mean we can have cars, and dishwashers and air conditioners—but they can’t? Of course they must participate, but it makes sense for us to take the lead. Er, uhm, OK.

But the Chinese will (next year) EXCEED the US in emitting CO2. WITH NO RESTRICTIONS NOR TAXES. NO ENVIRONMENTAL REQUIREMENTS AT ALL!

And you think THEY emit 1/10 of today’s emissions? ???? (Must be listening to the MSM.)

India is close to catching up with us.

Now, you “claim” that “we” (the US) should not have appliances, cars, heat, power, light, and fertilizers if the rest of the world cannot get them, but you “want” the Kyoto and Bali Accords to be enforced.... thus guaranteeing that the rest of the world CANNOT achieve energy and economic freedom? After all, if a “rich” European nation “buys” carbon credits from a poor third world country, that (starving, energy-poor) third world nation CANNOT use carbon (the ONLY available, affordable fuel) to feed and transport its own citizen.

Can we pretend that “planting trees” will increase a country’s economic life, its fertilizer and electricity industries when its women are burning sticks for firewood?

Just where do you think the trillions sent to the third world dictatorships goes? Palaces? Or roads, water pipes, and pumps (when there is no electricity to run the pumps and the sewage treatment plant - after all, you "sold" their carbon rights to fund Al Gore's house!)

76 posted on 12/16/2007 9:30:10 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Do you know what per capita means? I’ve attached a link to help you out.

http://www.carbonplanet.com/country_emissions

I stated here that I don’t support Kyoto and there is not yet a Bali Accord. I don’t care for Al Gore. I never said we shouldn’t have cars or dishwashers etc. I do not favor any plan which is likely to substanially harm our economy. If you find yourself having to assign me all these positions which I do not support to make your point, you may want to reconsider your point.

Some human beings deny the existence of complicated problems because they don’t want to deal with them. I am not going to deny the potential of a very serious problem here.


82 posted on 12/17/2007 11:41:19 AM PST by melstew
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE; melstew
Antarctic Nov,1979 versus November,2007


108 posted on 12/18/2007 9:41:38 PM PST by jwalsh07
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