Posted on 12/12/2007 6:16:25 PM PST by dynachrome
PHOENIX Talk about strange bedfellows. Consider Barry Goldwater Jr.; Minutemen founder Chris Simcox; Democratic State Rep. Pete Rios; and Carlos Flores, head of the Mexican General Consulate, together at a table to talk immigration over sandwiches.
And earlier in the day, Simcox, a controversial figure who is credited and criticized for being the first to organize a citizen border patrol, made what some found to be stunning statements: He supports public education for the children of illegal immigrants and sees the fix as not just an issue of enforcement, but of reforming Mexico's economy and basing the number of U.S. visas on the nation's labor supply.
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WTF?
ping
In the sun too long.
I smell a sellout.
There is a middle ground in the immigration debate. We can use legal immigrants...and it should be based on realistic views of the labor market. Mexico needs to reform,,but that is harder.
Reasonable people can agree, but we cannot continue on the path of unlimited illegal immigration, nor continued immigration from the Third World of unqualified family members.
I like the Mexican people in the fly over parts of Mexico. The mid level and workers of Pemex are good. It is the government and the high up in Pemex that are the vultures and looters. The peso was about 8 cents (12.5 to a dollar). When Pemex found the sito grande, a very large oil pool that covers parts of the states of Chiapas and Tabasco also a long ways into the Gulf of Mexico.
Pemex borrowed billions to produce this great oil find. The looters (government) stole most of the money and what they did buy was junk oil rigs and drill pipe, etc. 1,000 pesos which was worth about $80 now will not buy a coke (old pesos). This was due to the looters stealing billions from the Mexican people.
Instead of overthrowing the looters the Mexican people had an out, they had no weapons and they could cross into America and have a much safer life. This hurts both Mexico and America as Mexico lost some of its hardest workers. The gangbangers and welfare frauds also came over from Mexico as they could rape and pillage at will.
The government of Mexico is propped up by the billions sent back by the illegals and by our government having borders that are too open.
The only chance I see to help America and Mexico is to seal the border, deport the people who are not here legally. We also need to arm the Mexican people so they can have a chance against the looters with their armies.
Some of the recommendations out of the forum included asking legislators to form a bipartisan immigration caucus, and one break-out group suggested “eliminating the word amnesty from the dictionary.”
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oh man this is like the newspapers replacing illegal alien with undocumented worker.
not a good sign; fire the b-stards.
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