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"He who would harm a child, better a millstone be hung around his neck and be cast into the sea" Mr. Jesus Christ.

And you've got your panties in a wad over waterboarding?

On number four, the whole point is that safety is less important that morality,

Once again, you completely miss the point. Allowing innocents to be slaughtered when you have the power to stop it is what's immoral.

BTW...have you told your wife that you'd let her be killed before you'd muss some AQ thugs hair?

Get back to me after you have that conversation.

You don't have the power to stop it. You have the power to sell your soul for a hint of a gleam in your imagination that maybe something up to someone else might happen differently in a way that might conceivably help someone who might deserve it - which is obviously another matter entirely. Especially when the actual likely consequence (see Algeria) is instead to lose the whole war, by splitting any possible political support for continuing to fight it.

You can fight dangerous men, and those guilty of murder you can try and execute for it. You can even offer clemency for those who cooperate with you instead. But you may not torture anyone. The tiny relation between your hoped for results from doing so and any actual result, is so tenuous it would justify torturing nearly anybody, and neither you nor anybody else can be trusted with that. The direct result is instead to pollute everyone connected with it,or even supporting it, and to make any measures against them morally justified. Which helps our enemies far more than any info you get hurts them.

Wars are not won in torture chambers. There is no power there, only damnation and failure. Are the French running Algeria, if you think it works so well? For that matter, has Algeria been a paradise since the domestic torturers there took over? Was Saddam's Iraq a model of safety, from sufficient use of torture? Are the countries where torture is a routine practice of the government, richer or more powerful than civilized countries, let alone juster?

I've told you what mine think on the matter. Now are you going to tell us whether you are a torturer, or just wish you were? Has the devil enlisted you, or are you still banging on the door of hell trying to get in?