What bothers me is that, apparently the Mormon Church is willing to claim that the Jesus/Satan brotherhood is not a point of Mormon doctrine when it most clearly is (and which your response and restornu’s response argue). I find that denial to be extremely troubling. If I were Mormon I think I would find it even more troubling. I do hope that Mitt has the sense not to deny the doctrine. I disagree with the doctrine, but I respect anyone’s right to a different belief than mine.
How should it be a problem when one of the Morning stars (angels) (Lucifer/Satan) the who fell from heaven and was vanished from the Lord's Kingdom to never return.
The Morning Stars were us while still spirit angels!
God asks Job where he was when the foundations of the earth were laid, when the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy—
Job 38
4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
In all fairness this not that an ourrages it shows that their was one among them who was an enemy to the Heanvenly Father and now no longer part of the family of God!
Lucifer had miss used his gifts and therefore received no more increase in the Kingdom of God.
There are all kinds of angels and different degrees of angels!
when we were create in human form meaning the temporal body, we became a little lower than the spirit angels, when we are resurrected some day we will be above the spirit angels.
With respect, my friend I simply disagree.
"How should it be a problem when one of the Morning stars (angels) (Lucifer/Satan) the who fell from heaven and was vanished from the Lord's Kingdom to never return."
Not a problem at all. In fact I agree with that. But that is a far cry from equating as brothers, Jesus and Satan when, as I believe, Jesus and Got the Father(and the Holy Spirit) are the same--not three separate beings. As he told the disciples, "If you have seen me, you have seen the Father."
"The Morning Stars were us while still spirit angels!"
God asks Job where he was when the foundations of the earth were laid, when the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy—
Job 38
4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
I just don't see that Job supports this.
It would seem to me that the most straightforward reading of this would be that God is saying to Job that he was NOT around when God laid the foundations of the earth.
So we disagree on the pre-existence of humans as 'spirit' beings. I don't see that without the supplement of joseph Smith's works that this can reliably be supported in Scripture.
Having said that, I also know that I my own doctrinal positions are far from perfect. In the end, I am not saved by doctrine, but in my sinfulness I am saved by the blood of Jesus Christ. If we agree on that, you and I can call each other brother. The rest, He will sort out in eternity.