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The above definitions are those used by sociologists and other social scientists to ensure usable definitions of words like "cult" and "sect."
1 posted on 12/12/2007 9:57:41 AM PST by xzins
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To: P-Marlowe

The following are non-pejorative sociological terms to describe religious movements:

SECT: a deviant religious organization with traditional beliefs and practices.

CULT: a deviant religious organization with novel beliefs and practices.


2 posted on 12/12/2007 9:58:49 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain! True Supporters of Our Troops Support the Necessity of their Sacrifice!)
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To: xzins

SO I guess the difference will be in how someone defines “traditional” and “novel”, and hat those entail.


4 posted on 12/12/2007 10:00:15 AM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: xzins

Reminds me of a discussion I read once about the difference between a dialect and an language.

Someone said once that a language is a dialect with an army and navy.

Maybe a church is a cult with a pension fund for its leadership (or something like that).


7 posted on 12/12/2007 10:10:03 AM PST by samtheman
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To: xzins
I prefer the following definition of cult:

"a religion or sect considered to be false, unorthodox, or extremist, with members often living outside of conventional society under the direction of a charismatic leader."
10 posted on 12/12/2007 10:12:27 AM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3rd Bn. 5th Marines, RVN 1969. St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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To: xzins

And then there is Peoples Temple, which pretended to be a Christian sect, and after Jonestown was called a cult, but was actually nothing more or less than a bunch of America-hating communists. . .

Fascinating story, the Peoples Temple story. I think many people my age (I’m Generation X) don’t know much about it. I can’t believe Jim Jones was on the San Francisco Housing Commission! Actually, come to think of it, I can believe it.


19 posted on 12/12/2007 10:22:48 AM PST by olivia3boys
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To: xzins

Chaplain,

Here is the problem with those terms. Nobody other than those of us who have studied other religions uses the terms as anything other THAN a perjorative.

I’m pretty sure that the Huckabee story in the NTY this weekend about the LDS and the Christ/Satan brother thing is going to start another round of ‘cult’ comments for the LDS. And nobody will be saying it in a nice way.

My experience has been that sociology has not been all that kind of religion of people of religion despite the generally valid definitions you’ve put forward.

(Full disclosure to everybody else: I’m not LDS. I’m not related to anybody LDS. I’m not formerly LDS. I live in Las Vegas so I obviously know lots and lots of LDS. And I’m not supporting Mitt Romney. I’m NOT forwarding anybody elses agenda. K?)


22 posted on 12/12/2007 10:30:41 AM PST by bpjam (Harry Reid doesn't even have 32% of my approval)
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To: xzins

social scientists don’t get it—

CHURCH = man following God

CULT = man following man


29 posted on 12/12/2007 10:47:06 AM PST by Mrs.Z ("...you're a Democrat. You're expected to complain and offer no solutions." Denny Craine)
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Cult and sect both miss the point — the question is: Are they heretics?


37 posted on 12/12/2007 12:21:24 PM PST by BenLurkin
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