Posted on 12/12/2007 8:41:31 AM PST by xzins
Republican Mitt Romney retorted to questions about his faith by surging rival Mike Huckabee on Wednesday, declaring that "attacking someone's religion is really going too far."
In an article to be published Sunday in The New York Times, Huckabee, an ordained Southern Baptist minister, asks, "Don't Mormons believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers?"
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“I’m surprised so many Mitt people are still around. “
He’s a good man. Worth standing up for, especially on this issue.
http://www.mittromney.com/News/Speeches/Faith_In_America
As to Mitt hiring the best for politics, there’s little evidence. His hand picked Massachusetts Lieutenant Governor was at the time, and remained, a dud. He didn’t pick the best judges, at all.
He has certainly always picked the most expensive, with so far poor results. This confirms his Mass spending and results.
“The MSM will keep this “non-issue” forefront as long as possible and the Mitt-haters follow suit. That is all that is happening here. There is no more critique of sources, nor notice of context, on this forum. Sad.”
Good point. The Mitt-haters are like putty in the hands of the liberal MSM, jerking their knees in unison to the MSM throwing out that raw meat.
Let’s get back on the high road, folks:
http://www.mittromney.com/News/Speeches/Faith_In_America
“Perhaps the most important question to ask a person of faith who seeks a political office, is this: does he share these American values: the equality of human kind, the obligation to serve one another, and a steadfast commitment to liberty?
“They are not unique to any one denomination. They belong to the great moral inheritance we hold in common. They are the firm ground on which Americans of different faiths meet and stand as a nation, united.
... “”The diversity of our cultural expression, and the vibrancy of our religious dialogue, has kept America in the forefront of civilized nations even as others regard religious freedom as something to be destroyed.
“In such a world, we can be deeply thankful that we live in a land where reason and religion are friends and allies in the cause of liberty, joined against the evils and dangers of the day. And you can be certain of this: Any believer in religious freedom, any person who has knelt in prayer to the Almighty, has a friend and ally in me. And so it is for hundreds of millions of our countrymen: we do not insist on a single strain of religion – rather, we welcome our nation’s symphony of faith.” - Mitt Romney
Well, that’s progress, you’ve been one to bring up Romney’s Mormonism, but you are seeing Huck’s behavior as low.
Romney’s speech, while it would of course not satisfy those who see Mormonism itself as a bar was not about saying “dont bring God into this” but about saying that the Presidential race is not the place to get into doctrinal discussions:
He stuck with his Mormon faith and won’t hide from it:
“They would prefer it if I would simply distance myself from my religion, say that it is more a tradition than my personal conviction, or disavow one or another of its precepts. That I will not do. I believe in my Mormon faith and I endeavor to live by it. My faith is the faith of my fathers – I will be true to them and to my beliefs. Some believe that such a confession of my faith will sink my candidacy. If they are right, so be it.”
He won’t answer the gotcha doctrine questions:
“There are some who would have a presidential candidate describe and explain his church’s distinctive doctrines. To do so would enable the very religious test the founders prohibited in the Constitution. No candidate should become the spokesman for his faith. For if he becomes President he will need the prayers of the people of all faiths.”
I’d have to agree on the latter. we should question the voting sanity of people who put Mormon issues and insist on doctrinal answers ahead of other considerations. I’ll take a good Jewish doctor over a bad Christian doctor, and we voters should hire a good Mormon for President if he’s better than the “Christian” alternatives. Mormon doctrinal details will not impact how he performs as president.
half-truth?
Which part is not truth and which part is truth?
Plus Huckabee is just NOT made of Presidential timber. ...
Please. Voters in Iowa. Wake up. Romney, Hunter, Thompson ... even McCain. But NOT Huckabee. I love our Republican Party waaay too much to see it implode with another Arkansas politician in the spotlight.
Preach it, brother, preach it! Can I have an "Amen"?
Obama gets treated terribly on Free Republic.
Were you really expecting the media to treat him badly???
Were you really expecting the media to treat Romney nicely???
I choke at the thought of a liberal, feminist Methodist being in the White House and I’m a Methodist. (Hillary)
I’d far rather have Hunter, Thompson, Tancredo, Huckabee, McCain, or Romney in the White House. (In that order.)
Hunter is Baptist.
Thompson is Church of Christ.
Tancredo I don’t know.
Huckabee is Baptist.
McCain is Baptist.
Romney is Mormon.
Look up the answer from the LDS folks, who claim their doctrine on Satan as a fallen angel is not different from other Christian sects. It’s their doctrine to defend, not mine, but IMHO it’s pretty feeble to hint to folks what ‘those cultists really believe’ without getting it from them.
But beyond that, Huckabee’s bigger lie here is his feigned ignorance around the issue while playing with it enough to keep it out there. It’s take a real Huckster to do that dance.
A hearty and heart-felt HEAR HEAR!
If Huckabee succeeds by cultivating religiously intolerant voters in this way, it will greatly harm the GOP in so many ways.
I went to the mormon site and they do not believe that Jesus part of the eternal Godhead, the classic Trinitarian belief.
They think God procreated Jesus.
They also think God procreated all the angels.
But, I’m not allowed to say what I read.
“because neither children nor scoutmasters were named”
... it is wrong to say that he proposed or approved of scoutmasters specifically. It was a general statement.
When Mitt Romney was asked in 1994, during a time when this was a court case, Romney said that the Boy Scouts as an organization should have the right to make their own decisions.
That is the correct answer.
Mitt Romney was on the BSA board for 10 years.
In those 10 years, he didn’t do anything to change their current policy nor made any statement or act in support of it outside that one brief quote. The idea that he was hell-bent on changing the BSA on this is pure figment of your imagination.
At worst, it was a defensive statement of Romney during 1994 campaign, when Ted Kennedy was trying to paint him as a Jesse Helms in order to more easily defeat him.
“Obama gets the media celeb treatment and no tough treatment at all. Obama gets treated terribly on Free Republic. “
I didn’t realize our ratings matched CNN, ABC, CBS, NYtimes etc.
Tancredo is Catholic ... but noatably, religious affiliation says so LITTLE about how they will perform in office, it really SHOULDNT be anything but an asterisk-level factor in deciding who should be the next President.
Hunter, Jimmy Carter, Clinton, McCain and Huckabee are the same church - Baptist.
GWB and Hillary - Methodist.
Tancredo and Kerry are in the same different church - Catholic.
Does that help sort out candidates? Nope!
***I rarely see the word ‘basher’. It’s usually ‘hater’.***
I’ve seen, basher, hater, & bigot. Romney’s bid to be POTUS is bringing about a high whinny factor among many Mormons.
Nothing new here. Most Republican presidents have had "a lot of Mormons as staff in the White House" -- and holding cabinet and other high-level positions in their administrations...
Nothing new here.
right.
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