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Rudy Mitt Huckabee--The immigration problems of the leading Republican hopefuls.
Frontpagemagazine ^ | 12-12-07 | Don Feder

Posted on 12/12/2007 7:09:55 AM PST by SJackson

Rudy Mitt Huckabee

 

By Don Feder
FrontPageMagazine.com | Wednesday, December 12, 2007

On the issue of illegal immigration, Rudy Giuliani, Mike Huckabee, and Mitt Romney have begun doing passable impressions of Lou Dobbs. But can you trust a candidate whose record contradicts his campaign rhetoric?

At the recent CNN/YouTube debate, Romney and Rudy squared off on what's shaping up to be the defining issue of Campaign 2008 -- with the ferocity of rabid mongooses.

Rudy -- who wants to "secure the border" (is there anyone, including Hillary, who says they don't?) -- bragged that as mayor of New York he reported to the feds every illegal who committed murder, rape or child molestation.

Romney shot back: if they're here illegally, they're already criminals. At the same time, the former Massachusetts governor admitted he doesn't favor deporting all illegals who are caught, but they shouldn't get government benefits, he resolutely declared.

Romney accused Giuliani of operating a sanctuary city (true). Rudy accused Mitt of running a "sanctuary mansion" -- employing illegals to do yard work at his Belmont home. (Who knows?)

Earlier, Mike Huckabee -- who also says he wants to secure the Southern demarcation, and opposes amnesty and sanctuary cities -- unveiled a comprehensive plan (you should pardon the expression) for immigration reform -- which consists of sending his most prominent supporter, action star Chuck Norris, to the border. That's how serious the debate has become.

Just a few years ago, all three were singing a different tune -- which harmonized like the Three Tenors; call them The Three Amigos.

Giuliani:

Then there's Mitt Romney:

The foregoing notwithstanding, the candidate immigration-reform advocates fear most is none other than Mike Huckabee:

One man who can't hide from his record is Senator John McCain -- but that hasn't stopped him from trying to rationalize it.

"The reason most Americans want border security is that they want to cut off the flow of people coming to the country illegally, and then address the issue of a temporary worker program," McCain recently told a student in South Carolina.

What McCain resolutely refuses to understand is that border security doesn't stop at the border. If there's enforcement at the border but nowhere else, it won't stop the flow of people coming to the country illegally.

If we build an electrified wall 50-feet high (with sensors, watchtowers and gun-turrets) at the border -- but once you get past the border there's a chance you'll be amnestied or guest-workered or put on the proverbial path to citizenship -- that won't stop the flow of people coming into the country.

"You'll have to explain to me how you round up 12 million people. There's not 12 million pairs of handcuffs," McCain glibly observes, waving his favorite red herring.

So, lets stop raiding the employers of illegals. Because we can't catch all 12 million who are here illegally, let's stop all internal enforcement.

There are somewhere between 90,000 and 130,000 forcible rapes in this country each year. Most of the perpetrators are never caught. We probably don't have 100,000 pairs of handcuffs, so -- what the heck -- let's stop trying to apprehend rapists.

In reality, enforcement is the essence of simplicity -- every one you catch, you send back. Each illegal immigrant repatriated won't commit a crime, scam government services, contribute to language fragmentation or take away the job of a low-wage earning American.

In explaining the need for a "temporary worker program," McCain confides that "Hispanic workers" rebuilt the Gulf Coast states in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. "It's just a fact. And there are jobs Americans will not do in this country."

Wait, $20-an-hour construction jobs would go begging if it weren't for illegals? Apparently, they don't teach economics at the Naval Academy.

The reason companies that employ illegals got most of the reconstruction work after Katrina is because they were able to undercut the competition by paying their workers less -- not because Americans don't want construction work.

So, who's good on immigration? How about the unassuming guy from Tennessee?

According to The Washington Times story mentioned earlier, "On Thanksgiving, Mr. Beck wrote an e-mail to his supporters (at NumbersUSA) praising the immigration plan of Fred Thompson...who has called for attrition through enforcement."

Thompson is opposed to amnesty and a guest worker program. He wants to end chain migration.

He's the only credible GOP candidate who has a realistic immigration plan. (Duncan Hunter is great. Tom Tancredo led the charge in Congress. Both have as much chance of becoming president as Ramos and Compean -- the martyred Border Patrol agents.)

Thompson's plan includes attrition through enforcement, double the number of ICE agents, increase the Border Patrol to at least 25,000, increase detention space for captured illegals (instead of catch-and-release, pending a hearing), implementing an expedited deportation process already allowed under federal law, and enabling the Social Security Administration to share information with immigration and law enforcement agencies.

More importantly, unlike Rudy Mitt Huckster, Thompson's current positions aren't contradicted by his record in office.

In the spring of 2006, I warned that the president's amnesty plan would result in his party's loss of Congress. (Welcome Speaker Pelosi and Majority Leader Harry Reid.)

The amnesty act was overwhelmingly defeated not by talk-show hosts or immigration activists (though both played a part), but by the American people -- whose frustration and rage turned around 17 Senate votes in 72 hours.

Michael Barone, a senior writer for U.S. News & World Report, observes that if you listened carefully to the public during the Senate debate, you didn't hear racism, or anti-Hispanic hysteria, "you heard something else. They want the current law enforced. It bothers them that we have something like 12 million illegal immigrants in the country. It bothers them that most of the southern border is unfenced and unpatrolled. It bothers them that illegal immigrants routinely use forged documents to get jobs -- or are given jobs with no documents at all."

Their votes will not be won with talk of border enforcement alone. They will not be won with proposals for guest-worker programs or plans to "register" illegals so we can then proceed to deal with them. And they won't be won by "conservatives" who demonstrate their compassion with scholarships for the children of illegals.

The outcome of the 2008 election could hinge on the GOP choosing a candidate who can credibly address the illegal immigration crisis.

This column originally appeared on GrassTopsUSA.com and appears here with the author's permission.


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
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To: dano1
Arkansas' Huckabee, Tyson Foods, LULAC all aligned

Huckabee promotes 'open door' policy at LULAC convention

What's not to love.

21 posted on 12/12/2007 8:44:55 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla
More on LULAC and Arkansas...

Suit focuses on Tyson relationship with advocacy group

22 posted on 12/12/2007 8:48:16 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

It appears that many of “us” really are that stupid. Rudy McRombee, as a collective candidate, is winning the nomination so far.


23 posted on 12/12/2007 9:11:18 AM PST by samtheman
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To: SJackson

Here’s my standard post. We can do something about Illegal immigration.

RICO —Citizen Recourse

Private persons and entities may initiate civil suits to obtain injunctions and treble damages against enterprises that conspire to or actually violate federal alien smuggling, harboring, or document fraud statutes, under the Racketeer-Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO). The pattern of racketeering activity is defined as commission of two or more of the listed crimes. A RICO enterprise can be any individual legal entity, or a group of individuals who are not a legal entity but are associated in fact, and can include nonprofit associations.

Here’s what I’ve been pushing: it’s time to file Racketeering, Influencing, and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) lawsuits.

RICO lawyers could turn it around in a few years and MAKE MONEY at the same time. I’m surprised they haven’t done it already.

In the absence of enforcement, we can get the word out in the meantime that there is money to be made in filing RICO lawsuits against employers who hire illegal aliens.

Employers would have no trouble shutting down the border if they could get sued by someone under the RICO statutes for hiring these people in the first place. The next time an illegal alien kills someone in a drunk driving accident or somesuch thing, I’m going to point out that the victim’s family might be able to seek compensation from the employer under these statutes in the hopes that it would catch on. If this did catch on, would see such a swift backlash against illegal immigration that no employer would go near these people and they’ll all simply want to go back home.

IRS Reporting
REWARD FOR REPORTING EMPLOYERS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS
CALL THE IRS HOTLINE 1-800-829-0433 YOU MAY BE ENTITLED TO A REWARD
Call the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) hotline 1-800-829-0433 to report all
suspected employers of illegal aliens-—you are not required to identify
yourself and may be entitled to a reward. The Application for Reward ( Form 211 http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f211.pdf)
can be downloaded from http://www.irs. gov or call 1-800-829-3676. The IRS does
not take kindly to employers that seek to evade taxes by paying cash for day
labor-this is a common practice at construction sites. Report the employer`s
license plate number and any other information you may have. Employers usually
can’t run and take the hit in their wallets. Follow up with the IRS and ask
what action is being taken; if they refuse to cooperate, notify the press and
your elected officials. Do your part-—spread the word-—help make this
nationwide campaign a success!!!

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Hunter is the best candidate on Immigration.

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Why the smart money is on Duncan Hunter
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1926032/posts
Posted on 11/15/2007 3:43:17 AM PST by Kevmo

Hunter’s criticism of Thompson over this issue is well aimed. We need someone in the white house who isn’t a johnny-come-lately on this issue.
Road to Des Moines Conversions on Immigration (Hunter Press release)
News Which Cannot Lose ^ | 10/25/07 | Duncan Hunter/staff
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1916889/posts


24 posted on 12/12/2007 11:26:41 AM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: SJackson
...Apparently, they don't teach economics at the Naval Academy.

That is pretty funny given the preceding sentence before the ellipsis I substituted. But then, of course, it is interesting to see what most economists believe about immigration -- whether they're legal or not. I believe that over 70% of the top economists believe that even illegal immigration is a net positive to our economy. Did the author of this piece know that?

25 posted on 12/12/2007 1:55:31 PM PST by LowCountryJoe (I'm a Paleo-liberal: I believe in freedom; am socially independent and a borderline fiscal anarchist)
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To: Kevmo

Interesting legal strategy. Specifically how is the argument made in legal proceedings? I am not aware of the RICO statutes enough to see how the case is made.


26 posted on 12/12/2007 1:59:11 PM PST by LowCountryJoe (I'm a Paleo-liberal: I believe in freedom; am socially independent and a borderline fiscal anarchist)
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To: tompster76

well, in that case, welcome to FR ;-)


27 posted on 12/12/2007 4:10:20 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (DUNCAN HUNTER: SOLID! On; Illegals, N. Korea, Iran. Iraq, Economy, WOT, China, Business)
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To: samtheman

Reprehensible!


28 posted on 12/12/2007 4:15:47 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (DUNCAN HUNTER: SOLID! On; Illegals, N. Korea, Iran. Iraq, Economy, WOT, China, Business)
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To: SJackson
The outcome of the 2008 election could hinge on the GOP choosing a candidate who can credibly address the illegal immigration crisis.

Duncan Hunter.

29 posted on 12/12/2007 4:25:35 PM PST by roamer_1 (Vote for Frudy McRomsonbee -Turn red states purple in 08!)
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To: rodguy911
Fred/ Hunter/Tancredo are true believers in the nations security. All would build a fence,secure the border and protect the nations autonomy, the rest are huge question marks.
30 posted on 12/12/2007 4:27:06 PM PST by roamer_1 (Vote for Frudy McRomsonbee -Turn red states purple in 08!)
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To: roamer_1

Man are WE ever on the SAME SHEET!


31 posted on 12/12/2007 6:45:49 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (DUNCAN HUNTER: SOLID! On; Illegals, N. Korea, Iran. Iraq, Economy, WOT, China, Business)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Man are WE ever on the SAME SHEET!

Hi AIT,

It seems we have a natural ability to grasp the obvious :D

32 posted on 12/12/2007 6:51:20 PM PST by roamer_1 (Vote for Frudy McRomsonbee -Turn red states purple in 08!)
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To: All
APPENDIX C: VIEWS OF ECONOMISTS AND OTHER SOCIAL SCIENTISTS TOWARD IMMIGRATION
33 posted on 12/12/2007 7:19:12 PM PST by LowCountryJoe (I'm a Paleo-liberal: I believe in freedom; am socially independent and a borderline fiscal anarchist)
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To: mewzilla

PING for Huckster Huckabee’s pro-amnesty record.


35 posted on 12/13/2007 9:58:15 PM PST by WOSG
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