These fools talk about this like it some kind of clinical, theoretical college class. It is not. It is a death struggle.
If you are in a fight, bare knuckels, with someone who want to kill you...I have news for you, all the niceties go away. You kick, gouge, scratch, bite, pull, tear...whatever is necessary to survive and keep the other person from killing you. Real quickly, all the gentile mannerisms go away in an effort to stay alive.
We are in such a fight with radical islam. Our GIs in World War II and Marines were in such a fight with the Nazis and the Imperial Japanese...in many cases, particularly in the Pacific, prisoners were not taken. Those who tried to surrender (after a number who did killed our people after doing so) were executed, or burned alive in their pill boxes. Whatever measures necessary to assure victory and save American lives were taken, including beating the you-know-what out of prisoners to find out the enemiy's intentions. Sorry if that needles some folks sensibilities, but that's the truth.
In this case, as I understand it, the prisoners are left intact and physically uninjured. That is very tame and humane of us, and something I have absolutely no problem with if we are saving American lives and moving towards defeating these animals.
There is no moral equivalence, I refuse to even approach it from that perspective. Our nation's history, the lifestyle, prosperity, peace, and generosity of its citizens under our form of government...its non-imperial, non-land grabbing history...all of that, when compared to the history and life style and abject lack of freedom and tolerance of the enemy in this case is all the perspective I need.
That is absolutely the best summation of the situation at hand.
HATS OFF TO YOU, SIR ! ! !
I've said it before and I'll say it again:
I don't care if we use blowtorches and rusty pliers on these thugs.
We're in a fight for our lives and we better start dealing with it that way.
L
Is waterboarding crueler than beheading by knife? Carry on with the waterboarding, snowboarding, whatever it takes.
You have to take into account that the left is only protesting because a republican is in office and waterboarding would be silently conducted on a daily basis. If a rat were president they would be solidly behind him/her God forbid a rat ever gets the presdency again.
They do not care the slightest about you or I or any other Americans,eg, our troops, as long as they think they can gain some political advantage.
If you ask me the rats are the real terrorists and terrorist enablers.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brigadier Clive Candy: I often thought, a fellow like me dies - special knowledge, all to waste. Well, am I dead? Does my knowledge count for nothing, eh? Experience? Skill? You tell me!
Theo Kretschmar-Schuldorff: It is a different knowledge they need now, Clive. The enemy is different, so you have to be different, too.
Brigadier Clive Candy: Are you mad? I know what war is!
Theo Kretschmar-Schuldorff: I don't agree.
Brigadier Clive Candy: You...!
Theo Kretschmar-Schuldorff: It is a different knowledge they need now, Clive. The enemy is different, so you have to be different, too.
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Theo Kretschmar-Schuldorff: I read your broadcast up to the point where you describe the collapse of France. You commented on Nazi methods--foul fighting, bombing refugees, machine-gunning hospitals, lifeboats, lightships, bailed-out pilots--by saying that you despised them, that you would be ashamed to fight on their side and that you would sooner accept defeat than victory if it could only be won by those methods.
Brigadier Clive Candy: So I would!
Theo Kretschmar-Schuldorff: Clive! If you let yourself be defeated by them, just because you are too fair to hit back the same way they hit at you, there won't be any methods *but* Nazi methods! If you preach the Rules of the Game while they use every foul and filthy trick against you, they will laugh at you! They'll think you're weak, decadent! I thought so myself in 1919!
Theo Kretschmar-Schuldorff: [he pats Clive's shoulder] You mustn't mind me, an old alien, saying all this. But who can describe hydrophobia better than one who has been bitten - and is now immune.
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Brigadier Clive Candy: I heard all that in the last war! They fought foul then - and who won it?
Theo Kretschmar-Schuldorff: I don't think you won it. We lost it -but you lost something, too. You forgot to learn the moral. Because victory was yours, you failed to learn your lesson twenty years ago and now you have to pay the school fees again. Some of you will learn quicker than the others, some of you will never learn it - because you've been educated to be a gentleman and a sportsman, in peace and in war. But Clive! [tenderly]
Theo Kretschmar-Schuldorff: Dear old Clive - this is not a gentleman's war. This time you're fighting for your very existence against the most devilish idea ever created by a human brain - Nazism. And if you lose, there won't be a return match next year... perhaps not even for a hundred years.
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