[ReluctantDragon]

I usually pose the question in those exact terms when discussing this with liberals. They always concede that they would use torture (which waterboarding ain’t) to save their own family. At that point, checkmate.

[socialismisinsidious]

Exactly. Liberals are hypocrites. They claim to be compassionate, but can't understand your love for your country and family. They will spout "There is no room for violence in this world." (said in best liberal whine) UNTIL it's their daughter, son or loved one's life on the line. Liberals are not compassionate; they are sycophants.