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Huckabee questions Mormons' belief
Associated Press ^ | December 11, 2007 | LIBBY QUAID

Posted on 12/12/2007 6:04:34 AM PST by libstripper

WASHINGTON - Republican presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee, an ordained Southern Baptist minister, asks in an upcoming article, "Don't Mormons believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers?"

The article, to be published in Sunday's New York Times Magazine, says Huckabee asked the question after saying he believes Mormonism is a religion but doesn't know much about it. His rival Mitt Romney, the former Massachusetts governor, is a member of the Mormon church, which is known officially as the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

The authoritative Encyclopedia of Mormonism, published in 1992, does not refer to Jesus and Satan as brothers. It speaks of Jesus as the son of God and of Satan as a fallen angel, which is a Biblical account.

A spokeswoman for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints said Huckabee's question is usually raised by those who wish to smear the Mormon faith rather than clarify doctrine.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election; electoralholywar; falsedoctrine; huckabee; huckabeeisright; huckabeethedivider; mormonheresy
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Like evolutionism, which believes that life began as a sequence of chemical reactions of purely naturalistic origin

Evolution has nothing to do with the origin of life, just the origin of species.

You're about the billionth person to confuse abiogenesis with evolution.

61 posted on 12/12/2007 6:44:49 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: Da Coyote

wait for the article - these previews seldom do justice to the story


62 posted on 12/12/2007 6:45:11 AM PST by elpadre
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To: muawiyah
You are making a transparent attempt to hijack the thread.

Me? Would I do that? Actually, not. I was simply pointing out to dmz that his point applies equally in both directions.

Anyway, water, under 53 atmospheres of pressure, naturally forms itself into lengthy double-helix molecules.

Irrelevant since there's no evidence that the early earth, whatever age you wish to attribute to it, had 53 atmospheres of pressure upon it.

Toss in some impurities and you've got DNA ~ squeezed into existence through universal forces.

Er, no. It's a bit more complex than that, and this still wouldn't explain the naturalistic formation of the "impurities" you'd need anywise.

Betcha' God can do that kind of thing.

He could also turn you into the Staypuff Marshmallow Man, but he didn't (at least to my knowledge).

63 posted on 12/12/2007 6:45:26 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Conservatives - Freedom WITH responsibility; Libertarians - Freedom FROM responsibility)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

You seem to think that because your brother may have turned into a horse theft, that that somehow reflects badly on how you led your life. We are all God’s children. Some turn out well some turn out not so well. Lucifer turned out badly and was cast out and took 1/3 of our brothers and sisters with him never to have the chance at physical bodies. We that are here ,while not perfect, did not rebel and therefore come to earth.


64 posted on 12/12/2007 6:46:32 AM PST by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: ASA Vet
I actually prefer dark woody bars and blended( yeah, I know ) scotch. I be gitt’n all sorts of visions at that temple.
65 posted on 12/12/2007 6:47:28 AM PST by Leisler (RNC, RINO National Committee. Always was, always will be.)
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To: Strategerist
Evolution has nothing to do with the origin of life, just the origin of species.

You're about the billionth person to confuse abiogenesis with evolution.

Nope, I'm just using the colloquial definition of "evolution" common in everyday parliance, which basically encompasses the idea of both the naturalistic origins or life as well as the naturalistic propagation of diversity. When I wish to speak of evolution in a specific scientific setting, then I will distinguish between the two. When speaking generally in a non-scientific forum, I will use the generally understood definition.

66 posted on 12/12/2007 6:47:53 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Conservatives - Freedom WITH responsibility; Libertarians - Freedom FROM responsibility)
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To: ASA Vet
The TOE does not address an origin.

No, but the generally understood usage of "evolution", among a non-scientist audience, does. See #66.

67 posted on 12/12/2007 6:49:06 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Conservatives - Freedom WITH responsibility; Libertarians - Freedom FROM responsibility)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Nope, I'm just using the colloquial definition of "evolution" common in everyday parliance,

Which, simply, is wrong. It's common in everyday parlance because most people know very little about science.

68 posted on 12/12/2007 6:50:25 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: ASA Vet
My last set of official Army dog tags listed my religion as Druid. I still have them.

If you're a druid, I counsel you not to run against Huckabee in an election. You'll be outed!

I offer that advice as a fellow ASA vet."

69 posted on 12/12/2007 6:50:46 AM PST by RetiredArmyMajor
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat
You seem to think that because your brother may have turned into a horse theft, that that somehow reflects badly on how you led your life. We are all God’s children. Some turn out well some turn out not so well. Lucifer turned out badly and was cast out and took 1/3 of our brothers and sisters with him never to have the chance at physical bodies. We that are here ,while not perfect, did not rebel and therefore come to earth.

Well, the white ones of us, at least. The black ones stayed neutral, and were punished by being incarnated as blacks. (Mormons really believed that, at least before it became politically delicate to do so).

70 posted on 12/12/2007 6:51:12 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Conservatives - Freedom WITH responsibility; Libertarians - Freedom FROM responsibility)
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To: libstripper

The foundering begins.


71 posted on 12/12/2007 6:51:27 AM PST by eastsider (There's a Hucker born every minute.)
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To: libstripper

Mr. Huckabee’s question is not an HONEST question.


72 posted on 12/12/2007 6:52:18 AM PST by GOP_Lady
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To: libstripper

This kind of BS might get Huckabee the Republican nomination...but then he’s going to get destroyed in the General Election because people are sick of this religious stuff.


73 posted on 12/12/2007 6:52:21 AM PST by Swordfished
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To: pkajj
Well, that certainly covers the big items. Still, there seems to have been what we might call a "Worldwide Church of God" moment in most stakes over the last 50 years that makes most of that pretty irrelevant to the vast majority of members (and the "secret" stuff really isn't all that secret you know).

There's actually one group (in Illinois?) that used to be the number 2 Mormon body in existence that actually did make the transformation over to conventional Christianity (sans the snakes of course).

Sometimes I think researchers into early Mormonism confound the pre-existent Church of the First Born (which even has a 1702 American founding date in Brownsville Texas) with Smith's followings.

I know that Mormons frequently make that mistake when I mention the COTFB, particularly the Apostolic Charismatic COTFB. It's not beyond belief that some of the first of Smith's followers came from COTFB since it had a large presence in that part of New York at the time. Some of the elements you mentioned clearly come right out of the traditionalist Scandinavian shamen's trick bag ~ and have more to do with Santa Claus, reindeer and toy making elves than anything else.

Personally I think it's best to stick to the last 100 years of Mormon public belief and skip over that old stuff. The authenticity of much of the oldest stuff supposedly associated with the early Mormons really isn't nailed down all that well.

74 posted on 12/12/2007 6:52:43 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Strategerist
Which, simply, is wrong. It's common in everyday parlance because most people know very little about science.

Doesn't matter. Effective communication includes using language which your audience will understand. If you're discussing evolution in a non-scientific forum, it's best to use the colloquial definition until you ascertain for sure that your audience will follow more technical definitions.

75 posted on 12/12/2007 6:53:08 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Conservatives - Freedom WITH responsibility; Libertarians - Freedom FROM responsibility)
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To: libstripper
www.bible-truth.org/jesusbro.htm
Huckabee seems to be pretty close to the truth -



However, if Romney is throwing rocks via direct attack commercials, he should expect some in return.
Maybe he should be asked pointedly - are you going to act like Ezra Taft Benson or Harry Reid
76 posted on 12/12/2007 6:55:46 AM PST by DelaWhere (I'm with Fred!)
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To: seekthetruth
Thanks to Glenn Beck for showing the deeds of Mr. Huckabee.
77 posted on 12/12/2007 6:56:47 AM PST by GOP_Lady
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To: libstripper

I am absolutely repulsed by Huckabee. To me he is the second coming of Jimmy Carter—who also mentioned “Jesus” every two seconds and was a liberal masquerading as a conservative. If the GOP embraces this ass clown then we deserve to lose the White House.


78 posted on 12/12/2007 6:57:25 AM PST by montag813
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To: GOP_Lady

Glenn Beck just stated that Mr. Huckabee does not now or ever will have his support!!!


79 posted on 12/12/2007 6:58:41 AM PST by GOP_Lady
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To: Leisler
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Who are southern, gun owning, daisy dukes wearing, pick up driving, Marine Corps joining, whiskey drinking and on half a day Sunday, bible banging southrons supposed to have an affinity to?

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As a gun-owning, pick-up driving bible-banging Southron myself, I ask you not to characterize my brothers-in-arms in the United States Marine Corps as "daisy dukes wearing."

That would be the Navy and Air Force.

80 posted on 12/12/2007 6:59:45 AM PST by RetiredArmyMajor
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