Posted on 12/12/2007 6:04:34 AM PST by libstripper
WASHINGTON - Republican presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee, an ordained Southern Baptist minister, asks in an upcoming article, "Don't Mormons believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers?"
The article, to be published in Sunday's New York Times Magazine, says Huckabee asked the question after saying he believes Mormonism is a religion but doesn't know much about it. His rival Mitt Romney, the former Massachusetts governor, is a member of the Mormon church, which is known officially as the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
The authoritative Encyclopedia of Mormonism, published in 1992, does not refer to Jesus and Satan as brothers. It speaks of Jesus as the son of God and of Satan as a fallen angel, which is a Biblical account.
A spokeswoman for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints said Huckabee's question is usually raised by those who wish to smear the Mormon faith rather than clarify doctrine.
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So, the Early Earth, once an ocean of 530 meters (about 1700 feet) had been formed, would have had plenty of room for DNA creation, and still does.
You did know the ocean has MILLIONS of different viruses ~ just filled to the brim with them. Where are those genes coming from?
And what does the Huck think about that?
May I suggest you listen to Glenn Beck’s show today.
I was thinking of the young ladies.
I had heard of military wearing daisy dukes, but I always kept to the other side of the barracks.
I don’t recall that doctrine ever being canonized. That seems to be a big red herring to me. Blacks have always attended with everyone else. We are a geographic church similar to Catholics. You attend where you live, you don’t go shopping for wards. Even today, in the south there are Black protestant churches. We have never had anything like that. Did you know that Israelites never gave priesthood to anyone but Levites? We have Black bishops, stake presidents in white areas of the church. I don’t hear the attacks on Protestant divisions over race? A big reason we were tossed out of Missouri is because we were abolutionists.
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I’m sorry. Based on the Bible, I reject that belief as gross error. Jesus is now, and always has been infinite and eternal God Almighty. He has never been anything less than that - even when he walked the earth.
Lucifer is a finite, created being. He is not the "brother" of Jesus - spiritual or otherwise.
The sad thing is, Huckabee is gearing up to win the nomination. I refuse to hold my nose and vote for somebody in the primary or the general election like Huckabee.
His approach to social issues will never pass through Congress, so he might as well be pro-choice.
His foreign policy (or lack thereof) is as Lowry says, Obama like...which means it’s worse than Hillary’s.
It’s so sad our warriors in the middle east have are probably going to be subjected to the Huckster, Hill, or B. Hussein.
(a) those who wish Huckabee hadn't even addressed anything Mormon (they think it's a politically strategic error)
(b) those who somehow think the question itself is content-wise off-base when describing Mormon theology;
(c) "Oh, glee, oh, me, here's a chance to slam Huckabee just 'cause he's not 'my fave candidate.' Can't pass this one up." [Since I don't know internal motivations, whoever this describes how 'bout 'fessin up & say, "Yup, (c) was me."]
Those expressing "horror" for reasons of (a) are quite comical: It's like the elephant in the living room. They're more upset over the person who pointed to the elephant than they are the person who brought the elephant into the living room in the firstplace. (These folks want to keep pretending in their fantasy political life that the MSM won't bring this same subject to the attention of voters in 2008!!! Go ahead. Dream away..we wouldn't want to abruptly wake you up from your fantasy life).
(Plus, it's OK for these posters to have the audacity to comment negatively about Huckabee's religious belief of what Mormons believe, but it's not OK for Huckabee to have the audacity comment negatively about someone's religious belief...inconsistency).
Anyway, this all reminds me of folks who get more upset over people holding signs of aborted babies than they are the people who aborted the baby or legally allowed it to take place (misdirected provocation).
Those expressing "horror" for reasons of (b) show that they are the most ignorant.
Here we have, in 1958, one of the top 70 officials in the LDS Church, Milton R. Hunter, making this exact statement (and not in question form): "The appointment of Jesus to be Saviour of the world was contested by one of the other sons of God. He was called Lucifer, Son of the Morning .... this spirit brother of Jesus desperately tried to become the Saviour of Mankind." MILTON R. HUNTER (First Council of 70) The Gospel Through the Ages, p. 15
The ignorance evident here is that folks don't understand that LDS believe that spirits were created in a pre-existent spirit world and that Jesus was the first so-called "created" spirit. LDS prophet Brigham Young said: In the [Journal of] Discourses of Brigham Young, pp. 53-54: “Who will redeem the earth, who will go forth and make the sacrifice for the earth and all things it contains?” The Eldest Son said: “Here am I”; and then he added, “Send me.” But the second one, which was “Lucifer, Son of the Morning,” said, “Lord, here am I, send me, I will redeem every son and daughter of Adam and Eve that lives on the earth, or that ever goes on the earth.”
Ask any Mormon. They will readily tell you that "Jesus was the first born spirit in the pre-existence. He was literally our elder brother." What they won't readily tell you is that they believe that Lucifer (aka Satan) is also deemed by them to be an elder spirit brother of theirs.
As the LDS-produced Encyclopedia of Mormonism (p. 724), says: “Jesus Christ, whose main title was Jehovah, was the firstborn spirit child of God the Father and thus the eldest brother and preeminent above all other spirit children of God.” Hence, all folks & angels are in the minds of LDS, "spirit brothers."
What would you expect a Mormon convert to say about someone who puts a spotlight on a belief that reflects badly on Mormons in the public square? (I would suggest that many LDS converts may not even know all the ins & outs of what the foundational beliefs are in the Mormon church)
You're about the billionth person to deliberately confuse abiogenesis with evolution.
Seekthetruth,
Before the 10:00am EST break, Glenn did more than a number, he threw him overboard ( figuratively ). With 2 million listeners and the number 3 show (depending who is ranking him) that is big news if you ask me....
Very well said. I agree.
Good. We expect this kind of crap from the left, not our side.
Thats fine, I tend toward the Biblical view that he was the Son of God, the firstborn in pre-existence, and the only begotten in the flesh. We can agree to disagree. We allow everyone to believe what they wish. In politics, you will never find a better friend than the Mormons. Check the voting in Utah.
That's where Mormans get it wrong. Jesus is God Almighty in the flesh.
Sounds a little like the Democratic playbook of personal attacks in response to legitimate questions, doesn’t it?
Wow! Such religious "tolerance" coming from the Mormon convert, Glenn Beck!!!
You’re stretching badly there, bud. Glenn Beck said nothing intollerant about any religion.
Yes it does. It sound exactly like a trap question.
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