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To: BIGLOOK
I read the bayonet-to-the-crotch story in David Foster Wallace's essay on the 2000 campaign, "Up, Simba!"

I know there are nasty whispering campaigns against every candidate, so I don't know whether you've picked up something true or something inspired by a manipulator. But I think we're going off on a tangent.

Confession or collaboration under torture or abuse doubtless produces dishonor in the man whose will has been bent or broken. Maybe McCain speaks out of dishonor?

But is there anything honorable in a torturer's profession? Is a country that tortures honorable?

93 posted on 12/12/2007 1:45:23 AM PST by Dumb_Ox (http://kevinjjones.blogspot.com)
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To: Dumb_Ox

It’s a tough call- and if you review the record you’ll note that we don’t employ waterboarding on a daily basis with our enemies. From what I’ve read to date- it seems to have been effective and we received incredibly valuable intel that prevented attacks. In other words- we don’t do it for sport.

My question to you- what would you suggest? Would you, for example, sacrifice your family, your friends to a terrorist attack if intel could have been obtained via waterboarding that would have prevented their deaths?

It seems an easy thing to proclaim nobility and honor matter most- it’s an argument we hear from liberals often. Yet I don’t recall another solution being proposed- what is yours?


100 posted on 12/12/2007 4:29:44 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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