[Dumb_Ox]

May I suggest that there is a qualitative difference between being subjected to waterboarding under controlled conditions where you are assured of the professional conduct of your fellow soldiers, and being subjected to waterboarding as a captured enemy combatant at the mercy of angry, determined interrogators?

There are some who wouldn't even object to waterboarding if they knew for certain it was torture. However, stunts like this post will certainly help those who need a sense of ambiguity before they feel comfortable supporting ethically dubious techniques.

[Alright_on_the_LeftCoast]

you have chosen your screen name appropriately.

[Mariner]

Are you an anti-American?

You have NO IDEA whether this is a difference. YOU haven't "been there, done that".

Yes, there was a doctor present. There's also a doctore present when an enemy combatant is waterboarded.

[Lancey Howard]

stunts like this post will certainly help those who need a sense of ambiguity before they feel comfortable supporting ethically dubious techniques.

Waterboarding has only been used on three terrorists, and has not been used since 2003. Some of our own military special forces and intelligence operatives are subjected to waterboarding as part of their training. The technique, though obviously extremely unpleasant, causes no physical pain and no physical damage - - it is "torture" the way fingernails on a blackboard is torture, or the way the constant blaring of rock music is "torture". Information obtained from the terrorist Abu Zubayda stopped terrorist attacks and saved lives. Yet you refer to the technique as ethically dubious.

You sound like a real buffoon, Bunky.

[Lurker]

before they feel comfortable supporting ethically dubious techniques.

Waterboarding these thugs is not 'ethically dubious'. It would be absolutely immoral NOT to waterboard them.

Personally I don't give a rat's ass if we use blowtorches and rusty pliers on 'em.

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[jrooney]

"May I suggest that there is a qualitative difference between being subjected to waterboarding under controlled conditions where you are assured of the professional conduct of your fellow soldiers, and being subjected to waterboarding as a captured enemy combatant at the mercy of angry, determined interrogators?"

How would you know? The physical and psychological effects are probably the same. If you have never been waterboarded, you are only guessing and are not an authority on the matter.

[Velveeta]

Which of the dozens of ‘ethically dubious’ terrorist attacks that were thwarted, would you feel comfortable to have seen come to fruition?

[Bender2]

Re: However, stunts like this post will certainly help those who need a sense of ambiguity before they feel comfortable supporting ethically dubious techniques.

Well, I agree, Dumb_Ox... Your FR ID Name says it all!

Except, I guess, for the insult... to oxen everywhere.

No more need be said... nor your posts replied to in the future.

[Thickman]

Dumb Ox, those three terrorists were lucky their private parts weren’t eliminated prior to being sent to meet their 72 virgins. Waterboarding is torture? Give me a break - no harm, no foul is how I see it.

[Wil H]

May I suggest that there is a qualitative difference between being subjected to waterboarding under controlled conditions where you are assured of the professional conduct of your fellow soldiers, and being subjected to waterboarding as a captured enemy combatant at the mercy of angry, determined interrogators?

What's your point?

Neither is torture.

[Osage Orange]

May I suggest that there is a qualitative difference between being subjected to waterboarding under controlled conditions where you are assured of the professional conduct of your fellow soldiers, and being subjected to waterboarding as a captured enemy combatant at the mercy of angry, determined interrogators?

May I suggest that you've leaped to a conclusion that the interrogators aren't professional, and that they are angry..and that these techniques weren't done under "controlled" circumstances.

Just a suggestion....unless you actually know for certain otherwise.

[Ditto]

May I suggest that there is a qualitative difference between being subjected to waterboarding under controlled conditions where you are assured of the professional conduct of your fellow soldiers, and being subjected to waterboarding as a captured enemy combatant at the mercy of angry, determined interrogators?

Is that so? Please tell us what are the "qualitative differences" are.

[Beckwith]

Good screen name.