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Just a hypothetical for you, prompted by recent posts. You're in a war zone. Your buddy is captured and waterboarded for intelligence information. Was he tortured?

Just to be clear, I know our enemy doesn't care about torture or not. But they're a crappy little terrorist group. We'll beat them. One of my concerns is the precedent we're setting for the future. If we ever get involved in a conventional war with a party minimally respectful of the Geneva Convention, they could waterboard our boys in uniform and throw all these "waterboarding is not torture" arguments back in our face.

Call it coercion. It's uncomfortable and frightening. Torture is having your fingernails pulled out, fingers cut off, cigarette burns to the soles of your feet, your genitals or your ass.

Some of the things the NVA did to our men. Torture is hanging by a rope tied to to your hands behind your back. Torture is being in a cage submerged in a river with only your nose above water. Then there are the beatings, starvation and sleep deprivation...without end. And of course there were the speeches by Jane Fonda ....