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6 shot after exiting Vegas school bus
AP Yahoo! ^ | 12/12/07 | RYAN NAKASHIMA

Posted on 12/11/2007 4:50:40 PM PST by charles m

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To: charles m

north town to us locals

gang bang heaven


101 posted on 12/11/2007 7:26:09 PM PST by shadowcat
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To: bill1952; Gabz; evad; FoxPro; metmom; SoftballMominVA; leda; shag377
It seems to me, from working in education, experiencing the system as a student, educator, and parent, and from my readings both on this board and otherwise, that the system of local control in this country largely means that schools reflect their communities.

If communities are liberal, so the schools will be, and vice versa.

One can also argue that the larger culture is more decadent than it was, say 50 years ago, but that is not necessarily the fault of the schools and may in fact be a major cause of the problems in schools today.

It seems to me that a major ideological failing in this country is the perception that schools are able to solve all the ills of society, when in fact they frequently merely reflect said ills.

102 posted on 12/11/2007 7:28:31 PM PST by Amelia
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To: MaxMax

there should be a law that states all criminals should be referred to as dumbass... that way they won’t be glamorized by the media...

dumbass media...

t


103 posted on 12/11/2007 7:29:05 PM PST by teeman8r
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To: RaceBannon
Understanding and supporting the diverse cultures, setting examples of decency, holding our fire while we try to win their hearts and minds, and progressive diplomacy will surely bring tranquility to the misunderstood and oppressed victims of society that found no other recourse in their efforts to be acknowledged and loved by thier (late) peers....

Koom bi ya, Koom bi bleeeeech!!!

104 posted on 12/11/2007 7:32:07 PM PST by 4woodenboats (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: Amelia
..that the system of local control in this country largely means that schools reflect their communities. If communities are liberal, so the schools will be, and vice versa.

I think I get your point but I'm not sure I can agree totally.

If schools were merely a reflection of the communities, then private schools should have the same results as public schools.

I agree that parental involvement can have a profound effect in the school system; the problem is there simply isn't enough of it.

105 posted on 12/11/2007 7:35:26 PM PST by evad
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To: bill1952
Your post is so sad..
and so accurate.
106 posted on 12/11/2007 7:37:17 PM PST by evad
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To: bill1952

Great post. I agree 100%!


107 posted on 12/11/2007 7:42:01 PM PST by Palladin (Step aside, Romney. Huckabee is HOT!)
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To: dljordan

Bravo to your wife. On the other hand, I will say that it pisses me off that I must get a license to do what the 2nd plainly allows without one, or risk prosecution.


108 posted on 12/11/2007 7:46:17 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: evad
If schools were merely a reflection of the communities, then private schools should have the same results as public schools.

Not really...private schools by definition serve a population that wants something different and is willing to pay for it...and frequently, if parents feel strongly enough about it to pay private school tuition, they are going to insist that teachers provide what they want and that their children comply with the rules.

Usually private schools have higher academic standards and stricter discipline than public schools.

By contrast, how many times have you heard of parents suing public schools (or threatening to do so) because said parents thought the discipline and academic standards were unduely harsh toward their little darlings? I'm convinced that part of the lowering of standards in public schools is due to threats of such lawsuits. By contrast, if you don't like the policies of a private school, they can tell you to go elsewhere.

I agree that parental involvement can have a profound effect in the school system; the problem is there simply isn't enough of it.

Often, there isn't. Sometimes, there is too much, of a negative nature. I frequently think that parents who worry too much about their child's "creativity" and "self-esteem" are detrimental to a school system.

109 posted on 12/11/2007 7:46:35 PM PST by Amelia
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To: evad
If schools were merely a reflection of the communities, then private schools should have the same results as public schools.

A private school has a different community. Community doesn't necessarily mean just the surrounding area and people within.

The private school community would consist of the parents, students and teachers involved. Economically, they may not differ from their neighbors, but their values and goals are likely very different. It's a subset.

110 posted on 12/11/2007 7:47:38 PM PST by Dianna
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To: Beatthedrum
They are winning America..

Inch by inch the media is working at degrading America into a cesspool through
the propaganda that is spewed every day throughout America.

Yes, they are trying to win America no matter the cost.
The price may be to high for them to handle in the end.

It's to bad that regret is after the fact, and most don't recognize it until it's to late.

God Bless America.

112 posted on 12/11/2007 7:56:50 PM PST by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: charles m; bill1952; glock rocks; wintertime; yorkie; SoftballMominVA; Amelia; Gabz
The daily carnage has basically already started, we just dont recognize it.

If your a young disaffected man, you can become famous too.

Kill 10 people and your name is known word wide for many days.

Why just commit suicide in anonymity, when you can have the whole world know your name, see your picture and know your beef, worldwide?

I predict there will be another 10+ killed in the next 3 days. It is almost inevitable.

113 posted on 12/11/2007 7:59:24 PM PST by FoxPro (I love bacon.)
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To: dragnet2
Another fact is Las Vegas crime rate is rising, while LA, Cal has dropped dramatically.

Another fact is LA, Cal has lower crime than most all cities in this country of comparable size.

Interesting huh?

My impression is that L.A.'s infamous black gang subculture of the 1980s and 90s has largely been forced to relocate to Las Vegas and other cities by massive waves of illegal immigration. They were just getting overwhelmed by sheer numbers in L.A. The many unreported shootings in and around the Strip always seem to have a black hip-hop subculture connection.

MS-13 notwithstanding, the illegal Mexicans are not as violent on average as the urban blacks who preceded them. Leading one to surmise that this unorthodox form of urban renewal was one of the unstated goals of the open borders Republicans - to leaven out those criminal syndicates and Democrat voting blocs with waves of more politically malleable newcomers.

114 posted on 12/11/2007 8:10:06 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: evad

You stated it was also outside the big cities in some states.......

I grew up in NYC, I know about big city schools, public and private. Trouble is not confined to public schools, be they in big cities or rural communities.

Where I live, which is very rural, the good kids, academically and socially, do not want to go to the only private HS in the area because it is a haven for the bad kids and the gangs.


115 posted on 12/11/2007 8:13:41 PM PST by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: glock rocks

Agree.........just too weird to be chance that this crap only happens on the rats congressional watch.

These little fantasy filled murderers need too know this.....

Not one of you has won your sad sick little gamer episode with real guns. You and your kind may score a few points choosing the playing field that says no guns allowed or banned by law.......but trust in this ya little POS’s.

You will die a horrible and horrific death on the “playing” field by armed civilians or LEO’s and or endure hard core physical attacks during your hopefully short stay in jail and prison before yer put down like the rabid animals you want too be...

Sick little sacks of crap piss me off.

Doom on em .

Stay safe GR !

nite !


116 posted on 12/11/2007 8:19:49 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: dragnet2

Don’t worry I’m sure Reid is on it!Yea Crime fighter Harry Reid.


117 posted on 12/11/2007 8:24:25 PM PST by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: Strategerist
I dismiss anything I find "silly."

Which is pretty much... everything.

But you do it with such belligerent panache.

118 posted on 12/11/2007 8:32:27 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard ("and alllll the children are insane")
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To: Old Sarge

No. Probably just typical urban violence carried on the nationwide media screen as part of a nationwide effort, as the mainstream media is determined to effectuate a redefinition of the Second Amendment by SCOTUS and have them support Washington D.C.’s gun bans.


119 posted on 12/11/2007 8:35:09 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
This is the 4th major shooting within the last week. Very disturbing trend

Not really, satan is being cornered with the upcoming scotus case, iraq is history and elections are edging toward conservative platformsand. the gloves are coming off. Its only gonna get worse before it gets better...

remember, the good guys win in the end...

120 posted on 12/11/2007 8:44:33 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (A few Rams must look after the sheep 'til the Good Shepherd returns...)
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