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To: JRochelle

In fact, Mormon doctrine does teach that Jesus and Satan are brothers.

In the Discourses of Brigham Young, on Pg.53-54 he lets it be known that Lucifer is the second son, the one known as “Son of the Morning.”

“Who will redeem the earth, who will go forth and make the sacrifice for the earth and all things it contains?” The Eldest Son said: “Here am I”; and then he added, “Send me.” But the second one, which was “Lucifer, Son of the Morning,” said, “Lord, here am I, send me, I will redeem every son and daughter of Adam and Eve that lives on the earth, or that ever goes on the earth.”


169 posted on 12/11/2007 5:43:20 PM PST by Juan Medén
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To: Juan Medén; seekthetruth; ECM; misterrob; hunter112; no more apples; Tulane; laconic; ...
What a hateful and utterly stupid thing to say! Even I know enough about the Mormon religion to know that they do not believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers![Seekthetruth]

Well, of all the posts thus far, this one by SeektheTruth is the most ignorant.

I think the loud chorus of concerns in this thread range from...

(a) those who wish Huckabee hadn't even addressed anything Mormon (they think it's a politically strategic error)...as evidenced by one comment from ECM...

(b) those who somehow think the question itself is content-wise off-base when describing Mormon theology;

(c) "Oh, glee, oh, me, here's a chance to slam Huckabee just 'cause he's not 'my fave candidate.' Can't pass this one up." [Since I don't know internal motivations, whoever this describes how 'bout 'fessin up & say, "Yup, (c) was me."]

Those expressing "horror" for reasons of (a) are quite comical: It's like the elephant in the living room. They're more upset over the person who pointed to the elephant than they are the person who brought the elephant into the living room in the firstplace. (These folks want to keep pretending in their fantasy political life that the MSM won't bring this same subject to the attention of voters in 2008!!! Go ahead. Dream away..we wouldn't want to abruptly wake you up from your fantasy life).

Anyway, this all reminds me of folks who get more upset over people holding signs of aborted babies than they are the people who aborted the baby or legally allowed it to take place (misdirected provocation).

Those expressing "horror" for reasons of (b) show that they are the most ignorant.

Here we have, in 1958, one of the top 70 officials in the LDS Church, Milton R. Hunter, making this exact statement (and not in question form): "The appointment of Jesus to be Saviour of the world was contested by one of the other sons of God. He was called Lucifer, Son of the Morning .... this spirit brother of Jesus desperately tried to become the Saviour of Mankind." MILTON R. HUNTER (First Council of 70) The Gospel Through the Ages, p. 15

The ignorance evident here is that folks don't understand that LDS believe that spirits were created in a pre-existent spirit world and that Jesus was the first so-called "created" spirit. As Juan Meden pointed out in post #169: LDS prophet Brigham Young said: In the [Journal of] Discourses of Brigham Young, on Pg.53-54 he lets it be known that Lucifer is the second son, the one known as “Son of the Morning.” “Who will redeem the earth, who will go forth and make the sacrifice for the earth and all things it contains?” The Eldest Son said: “Here am I”; and then he added, “Send me.” But the second one, which was “Lucifer, Son of the Morning,” said, “Lord, here am I, send me, I will redeem every son and daughter of Adam and Eve that lives on the earth, or that ever goes on the earth.”

Ask any Mormon. They will readily tell you that "Jesus was the first born spirit in the pre-existence. He was literally our elder brother." What they won't readily tell you is that they believe that Lucifer (aka Satan) is also deemed by them to be an elder spirit brother of theirs.

As the LDS-produced Encyclopedia of Mormonism (p. 724), says: “Jesus Christ, whose main title was Jehovah, was the firstborn spirit child of God the Father and thus the eldest brother and preeminent above all other spirit children of God.”

Hence, all folks & angels are in the minds of LDS, "spirit brothers."

218 posted on 12/11/2007 7:01:41 PM PST by Colofornian
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