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To: PAR35; Tlaloc
Are we not all God's Children and if so did not Lucifer who sang among The Morning Stars who also the one whoFell from Heaven and now no longer part of Heavenly Father children!

Rom. 8: 16-17 17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

It is amazine how the same critics have been shown scripture amd continue this misrepresentation of that quote!

Remeber before Lucifer/Satan fell from heaven he was not origianlly an outcast!

Revealtion 12:7-13
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

163 posted on 12/11/2007 5:38:23 PM PST by restornu (Harry Reid's is going to get Daschled! Your on your own Harry!)
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To: restornu
Rom. 8: 16-17 17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

And why are they heirs? Not because they are natural children or spirit children of God; it is because they have been adopted.

Keep reading in Romans 8 - ROM 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

Or more clearly here:

EPH 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will.

and here:

GAL 4:4 - 5 But when the fullness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

237 posted on 12/11/2007 7:47:27 PM PST by PAR35
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To: restornu

Resty, Jesus IS God in a fleshly body. Satan cannot be a created being AND be the brother of God.


238 posted on 12/11/2007 7:50:16 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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