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Rudy Giuliani Will Not Win Republican Nomination, Abortion Main Reason
Life News ^ | 12/10/07 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 12/10/2007 4:49:38 PM PST by wagglebee

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Both Rooty and Hitlery are self-destructing.
1 posted on 12/10/2007 4:49:40 PM PST by wagglebee
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To: cgk; Coleus; cpforlife.org; narses; 8mmMauser

Pro-Life Ping


2 posted on 12/10/2007 4:50:26 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: TitansAFC; Liz

Stop Rudy Ping


3 posted on 12/10/2007 4:51:06 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Rooty appears to have the Morals of an Alley Cat. Actually I don’t want to demean the Alley Cat. he appears to have the morals and leadership abilities of a Democrat of this Era!!


4 posted on 12/10/2007 4:53:44 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (God Bless America and The Republicans)
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To: wagglebee

Any Republican candidate on the wrong side of these two issues can forget it. I don’t care what Rudy says about appointing “strict constructionists”...... I don’t trust him, and won’t vote for him. I’m very suspect of Romney’s sudden flip-flop on this issue as well.


5 posted on 12/10/2007 4:54:41 PM PST by jageorge72
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Fast forward to 1980, and a pro-life Reagan defeated a pro-abortion George H.W. Bush and eventually raced to re-election in 1984. Bush won the nomination in 1988, but only after he had fully converted to the pro-life position.

Anyone who thinks the main reason Reagan beat Bush in 1980 was abortion is on drugs.

The reality is abortion has never mattered nearly as much in any Presidential Election as either pro-life or pro-choice people like to think it does.

6 posted on 12/10/2007 4:55:47 PM PST by Strategerist
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Regarding Rudy banking on Florida..... powerful Florida House Speaker Marco Rubio just endorsed Huckabee. Sorry Rudy.


7 posted on 12/10/2007 4:56:28 PM PST by jageorge72
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Subtitle: GOP Will Not Win General Election. Romney is a Joke Main Reason


8 posted on 12/10/2007 4:58:10 PM PST by manapua
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To: wagglebee

and so I would have to assert that a Pro-Life Democrat (is that an oxymoron) would never win the nomination of his party either.


9 posted on 12/10/2007 4:58:22 PM PST by tomnbeverly (If Harry Reid has his way soldiers in Iraq will not get the funding to complete the mission.)
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I certainly hope this is correct, but I fear it may not be.

Guiliani still gets the most votes in the polls, and he just moved past Huckabee today in Rasmussen after trailing him for about a week.

The bottom line is that the remainder of the GOP field is filled with pro-lifers and some nominal ones, but they split the vote between them. Unless one viable one can rise to the top and cause the others to drop out, Guiliani will get the nomination based upon only 25-30% of the GOP vote.


10 posted on 12/10/2007 4:59:00 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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Rudy Giuliani Will Not Win Republican Nomination, Abortion Main Reason

Abortion isn't the main reason it's just a part of the reason.

11 posted on 12/10/2007 4:59:16 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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Rooty Toot also has made it clear that he thinks Ruth Bader Ginsburg is a good justice and he has said that, “Presidents, going back to the beginning of the republic, generally appoint people on the Supreme Court that they believe agree with them.” And in Rooty Toot’s case this means he would appoint pro-abortion justices.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,163223,00.html


12 posted on 12/10/2007 5:00:47 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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The bottom line is that the remainder of the GOP field is filled with pro-lifers and some nominal ones, but they split the vote between them.

Being pro-life goes far beyond just the issue of abortion.

13 posted on 12/10/2007 5:01:26 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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Our Forefathers could not conceive of anybody but
an insane person wanting to murder an unborn baby.

Now some people think it is convenient to plan the
murder of the most helpless.


14 posted on 12/10/2007 5:02:45 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rudy,Romney,McCain, Huckabee will send a self-abused stomped elephant to the DRNC.)
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Our Forefathers could not conceive of anybody but an insane person wanting to murder an unborn baby.

Which is why the right to life is not covered in the Constitution, they could never envision a day when people would sanction the killing of the innocent.

15 posted on 12/10/2007 5:06:15 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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“Being pro-life goes far beyond just the issue of abortion.”

For most protestants the term pro-life means “against abortion.” It does not include being against capital punishment. Truthfully, the term “pro-life” is actually inaccurant in my case. I am “anti-abortion” and don’t need to make that sound “positive” by word spin. The pro-abortion groups forced this by using the spin term “pro-choice.”


16 posted on 12/10/2007 5:12:56 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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“Which is why the right to life is not covered in the Constitution, they could never envision a day when people would sanction the killing of the innocent.”

Amen.


17 posted on 12/10/2007 5:13:47 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Strategerist

Right, but it is still the number one issue for millions of Republican or would-be Republican voters.

What many conservatives seem to be missing is that ANY of the top GOP candidates, if elected, would save America from the cataclysm of another Clinton presidency. Each of them has his strengths and weaknesses but none of them “loathe” the military. None of them admire Noam Chomsky, nor Saul Alinsky. None of them will work with the jackass congress to pass the largest tax hike in US history. None of them will appoint radical collectivists to the US Supreme Court, nor sprinkle leftists throughout the judiciary. None of them will “save” Social Security by hiking taxes on “the rich.” None of them will appease our enemies for a shallow and temporary peace. None of them will work like a demon to socialize medicine and the economy at large. Mrs Clinton will do all of the above, and I have just barely scratched the surface of the harmful gorillas she will set loose on America.


18 posted on 12/10/2007 5:16:12 PM PST by Combat_Liberalism
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To: Coleus; nickcarraway; narses; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; TenthAmendmentChampion; ...

Please FreepMail me if you want on or off my Pro-Life Ping List.

19 posted on 12/10/2007 5:23:24 PM PST by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: wagglebee
This article assumes so much that is just not true in the 2008 election.

First, correct me if I am wrong, but has a pro choice candidate ever been in the lead before this election? This article assumes that the voters will just change their mind at this late date, based on the abortion criteria.

Second, we have never had an election (except 2004 which President Bush was the only candidate) since 9/11. Many pro life voters have, for better or for worse, decided that the WOT is their primary campaign issue. IslamicFascists want to take over our way of lives, and the abortion issue won't matter if we let them.

And third, the primary elections are so compressed this year, Super Duper Tuesday WILL make the difference, especially if none of the other top tier candidates dominates in all the States that come before that. If Huck wins Iowa, Romney wins NH, Rudy or Romney win Michigan, and Romney, Huck or Fred wins SC, there will be no "front runner", so Rudys dominance on Super Tuesday (and probably Florida before that) will keep him in the front.

As of today (a bunch could change in a month) Huck is the only one that could change any of this, and I, personally don't think he is a War Time President, so I hope he doesn't.

20 posted on 12/10/2007 5:26:39 PM PST by codercpc
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