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Current melting of Greenland's ice mimicks 1920s-1940s event
PhyOrg.com ^ | 2007-12-10 | Earle Holland

Posted on 12/10/2007 4:05:10 PM PST by sourcery

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1 posted on 12/10/2007 4:05:12 PM PST by sourcery
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To: sourcery

LOL

It happened before without ill effect and without catastrophic events, yet it bolsters the theory?


2 posted on 12/10/2007 4:07:47 PM PST by Darksheare (Cannibal Soup, a meal within yourself.)
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The work, reported at this week's annual meeting of the American Geophysical Union in San Francisco , may help to discount critics' notion that the melting of Greenland 's glaciers is merely an isolated, regional event.

Are they really that stupid? The findings of this study absolutely DO NOT help the "antrhopogenic global warming" case AT ALL. Instead, it adds yet more evidence that the recent warming is neither unusual nor unprecedented. It's happened before, to the same extent, and at the same rate. In fact, it's been worse!

3 posted on 12/10/2007 4:09:07 PM PST by sourcery (If Hillary is the next President, she may also be the last.)
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So, if greenhouse gases are responsible, why didn’t it continue?


4 posted on 12/10/2007 4:09:09 PM PST by Panzerlied ("We shall never surrender!")
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To: Darksheare
It happened before without ill effect and without catastrophic events, yet it bolsters the theory?

So it cooled from 1940's to the 1980's despite the massive build up of man made CO2?

5 posted on 12/10/2007 4:10:02 PM PST by Always Right
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...it adds yet more evidence that the recent warming is neither unusual nor unprecedented.

I don't know about you but I never let facts get in the way...never...ever.

6 posted on 12/10/2007 4:12:21 PM PST by LasVegasMac (Islam: Bringing the world death and destruction for 1400 years!)
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To: sourcery

It just shows you the that we have some big scammers today making a lot of money off their scams.


7 posted on 12/10/2007 4:12:45 PM PST by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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" . . . the massive ice sheet might pass its “threshold of viability” – a tipping point where the loss of ice couldn't be stopped. Once you pass that threshold,” Box said, “the current science suggests that it would become an irreversible process."

To me, their research suggests the very opposite - that the melting process comes and goes, and is mostly unrelated to human factors. And how they can claim the melting process at some point would become "irreversible" is beyond me.
8 posted on 12/10/2007 4:15:39 PM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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...and if they are so sensitive to warming, then it follows that small cooling events will quickly rebuild the ice sheets.

The P-38, Glacier Girl, was buried under 268 feet of ice after 50 years in Greenland.


9 posted on 12/10/2007 4:18:52 PM PST by MediaMole
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This is just outlying data. Ignore it. Besides, the researchers put that face saving statement in at the end to save their reseach grants. Nothing here.


10 posted on 12/10/2007 4:19:06 PM PST by saganite
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The “threshold of viability” of man made global warming melted away a long time ago....The scam is becoming more visible every day.
11 posted on 12/10/2007 4:19:37 PM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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The fact that recent changes to Greenland's ice sheet mirror its behavior nearly 70 years ago is increasing researchers' confidence and alarm as to what the future holds.

WTF?

Recent warming around the frozen island actually lags behind the global average warming pattern by about 1-2 degrees C but if it fell into synch with global temperatures in a few years, the massive ice sheet might pass its “threshold of viability” – a tipping point where the loss of ice couldn't be stopped.

Okay, so this place doesn't even fit the GW mold, but "if it fell into synch", we are all hosed?

Again, WTF?

12 posted on 12/10/2007 4:19:48 PM PST by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: Always Right
So it cooled from 1940's to the 1980's despite the massive build up of man made CO2?

Bears repeating. You have broken the code. How could this possibly be if man-made CO2 causes global warming?

13 posted on 12/10/2007 4:19:51 PM PST by plain talk
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To: sourcery; OKSooner; honolulugal; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; gruffwolf; ...

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14 posted on 12/10/2007 4:20:06 PM PST by xcamel (FDT/2008)
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To: MediaMole

They’ll spin it, they always do.


15 posted on 12/10/2007 4:21:08 PM PST by Darksheare (Cannibal Soup, a meal within yourself.)
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To: sourcery

I wonder how long it will take the scientists who made this “discovery” to be ostracized by their peers for not following group-think science?


16 posted on 12/10/2007 4:21:34 PM PST by llevrok (Born a ham and never cured.)
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To: sourcery
we simply don't know how fast that might happen

But, we know we have to ship $85 billion a year to countries with little visible economy.

17 posted on 12/10/2007 4:21:46 PM PST by RightWhale (anti-razors are pro-life)
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To: Always Right

Let’s see, p-38 buried on glacier in Greenland.
Check.

Warming trend that existed from 1920s to 1940’s.
Check.

It would appear so.
Despite all that coal we burned in the 1800’s and early 1900’s.


18 posted on 12/10/2007 4:22:30 PM PST by Darksheare (Cannibal Soup, a meal within yourself.)
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To: sourcery
Interesting...

No mention of the fact it happened all by itself only 80 years ago...

Or that when it happened before it wasn’t due to man...

That just perhaps it is normal feature of nature...

And that the trend didn’t continue and end life as we know it on earth...

A few little details that would seem to matter in the scheme of things...

19 posted on 12/10/2007 4:23:10 PM PST by DB
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"It happened before without ill effect and without catastrophic events, yet it bolsters the theory?"

That's exactly what I was thinking? Something is screwy with their logic.

20 posted on 12/10/2007 4:24:01 PM PST by avacado
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